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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "They did actually. They mentioned that (like most of us saw) the ball was passed backwards by Kirke and knocked towards the Wigan line by the hand of the Wigan player tackling him. Watch and listen again.'"
I have and they didn't.
What they commented on was that Donald did not knock the ball on.
Watch again and listen.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I have and they didn't.
What they commented on was that Donald did not knock the ball on.
Watch again and listen.'"
IF True then that is a Fact Brian Not an Opinion?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Kirke releases the ball before the 20 metre line. It hits the ground after the 20 metre line, therefore it's a knock on as soon as it hits the ground, it doesn't matter which way it bounces after that'"
Correct
Stevie Wonder would of spotted that
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I have and they didn't.
What they commented on was that Donald did not knock the ball on.
Watch again and listen.'"
Obviously with the special "Wigan" glasses they hand out. Replay after the conversion - end on - Stevo says "comes off Ainscough's fingers". You clearly see the ball passed backwards and then hit Ainscoughs hand.
Dreary me. Please, don't post any more "observations" if you can't even watch a replay accurately.
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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "Obviously with the special "Wigan" glasses they hand out. Replay after the conversion - end on - Stevo says "comes off Ainscough's fingers". You clearly see the ball passed backwards and then hit Ainscoughs hand.
Dreary me. Please, don't post any more "observations" if you can't even watch a replay accurately.
You said it pal.
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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "Obviously with the special "Wigan" glasses they hand out. Replay after the conversion - end on - Stevo says "comes off Ainscough's fingers". You clearly see the ball passed backwards and then hit Ainscoughs hand.
Dreary me. Please, don't post any more "observations" if you can't even watch a replay accurately.
I've got the delayed game on Sky Sports extra (the one that shows the coaches interviews) and there is no replay of the try after the conversion.
If the ball came off Ainscoughs hand why didn't the referee wave his hand to give another six tackles?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I've got the delayed game on Sky Sports extra (the one that shows the coaches interviews) and there is no replay of the try after the conversion.
If the ball came off Ainscoughs hand why didn't the referee wave his hand to give another six tackles?'"
So you have bagged me after watching an edited version of the game that doesn't even include all the replay footage? You originally asked why the Sky team made no mention of the ball hitting a Wigan players hand, I pointed out that they did, and then you decide I'm wrong even though you don't have the full televised transmission of the match. Awesome
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| Quote: Dave Heron's Moustache "So you have bagged me after watching an edited version of the game that doesn't even include all the replay footage? You originally asked why the Sky team made no mention of the ball hitting a Wigan players hand, I pointed out that they did, and then you decide I'm wrong even though you don't have the full televised transmission of the match. Awesome
It does show the replay of the try, but before the conversion. The ball did not IMO touch Ainscoughs hand.
Why did the referee not wipe the tackles clear if Ainscough had played the ball?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It does show the replay of the try, but before the conversion. The ball did not IMO touch Ainscoughs hand.
Why did the referee not wipe the tackles clear if Ainscough had played the ball?'"
Maybe he ruled that the ball hit Ainscough in the process of making the tackle thus making it play on but not back to one?
To the person questioning whether the offside try just after half time would have been given without the VR I'm sure that you hear Smith shout offside when the balls kicked and then went to the VR to make sure he was correct.
The obstruction was correct IMO, O'Loughlin was in no position to receive a pass and was standing in the line with the intention of stopping the defender. I accept that Ablett probably made sure he ran into him to ensure we got the penalty but thats not the point.
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| Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "
The obstruction was correct IMO, O'Loughlin was in no position to receive a pass and was standing in the line with the intention of stopping the defender. I accept that Ablett probably made sure he ran into him to ensure we got the penalty but thats not the point.'"
If Lockers wasn't on the field would Ablett have made the tackle anyway?
(The answer is no btw )
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| Quote: kirkamania6 "If Lockers wasn't on the field would Ablett have made the tackle anyway?
(The answer is no btw
Regardless the fact is he shouldn't be prevented from attempting which he was. Leeds got done for a similar one not too long after
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| Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "Regardless the fact is he shouldn't be prevented from attempting which he was. Leeds got done for a similar one not too long after'"
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| Quote: kirkamania6 "If Lockers wasn't on the field would Ablett have made the tackle anyway?
(The answer is no btw
Are you serious?
He would have had him tackled with ease. What is it with people not watching the match? get a copy and look at it again. Hock was a yard away the other side of O'Loughlin. O'Loughlin impeded Ablett. As clear an obstruciton as you are likely to see, and had he not been there Ablett would have tackled Hock. Quite simple.
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| Quote: DISA "Are you serious?
He would have had him tackled with ease. What is it with people not watching the match? get a copy and look at it again. Hock was a yard away the other side of O'Loughlin. O'Loughlin impeded Ablett. As clear an obstruciton as you are likely to see, and had he not been there Ablett would have tackled Hock. Quite simple.'"
Wrong
I was at the game and I watched it back on sky+ on saturday morning
Lockers stopped about half a yard before your defensive line whilst Hock came steaming through on Lockers' left shoulder through a pretty big gap in your defensive line
Ablett was too slow to cover and realised he wasn't going to make the tackle so did his best to make it look like he had been obstructed and that muppet Bentham took the bait
Even Stevo thought it was a try so it must of been
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Why are you even @rsed? If I was a Leeds fan I would just be happy with the 2 points
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| Quote: Jukesays "No!
He didn't give them is FACT
Should he have given them is an Opinion!
It may be hard for you to take in due to Never having been Wrong before but I live in hope that somewhere along the line it will!'"
Juke, have you not realised yet that you're trying to reason with an idiot? Give it up man...life's too short!
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