I know, that's why I used the word. I knew it would not be lost on some!



It should not though certainly not 10 to 15 games. He doesn't seem to know his best team or how to use what he has got, which is not IMO a new problem with his coaching.

Dave

we completed most sets, we didnt loose that much ball, ok riddell hasnt kicked on yet hes in a new team different speeds, give the guy some time for god sake
As for tim smith i think you may have been watching a totally different game, the lad had a cracking game tonight some great attacking kicks ok one or two bad kicks but thats the way it goes, the reason we didnt win is because goulding didnt take his chances, the team played well dont think there was that much wrong, they got the luck of the bounce on a kick which lead to there try.

My comment on Smith relates to his Jaykell & Hide style. But IMO I would keep Smith in the Xiii but play him @ 7, TL @ 9, and get a new 6.

I think he knows what his best team SHOULD be, the problems seem to stem from his reluctance to break from that when as now, it doesnt seem to be/isn't working.

Hi, Mr Forshaw..

Who would you bring in at 6 ? Not to many classy players about but Smith Played well tonight for you guys , TL has done a decent job at 9 before. Riddell should be nowhere near a wigan team or in SL.

I hear that Dennis Moran is a good player!!!

I don't know some one to complement Smith, not sure who though that is Noble & IL job.

How dare you sir!..Humberside is renowned for its class act.
All this giving Wigan grief............couldn`t the fact that Hull played quite well have something to do with it?

think nobles big black book of excuses has gone missing.....he'll have to refer to this thread now

Lets panic and sack Noble after 2 games.

From a Hull fan - I don't really think either side showed a great deal of promise last night, however in the end I think our superior fitness shone through and that was probably the difference between the two sides. I still think you'll be in the mix at the end of the season, at times last night you looked threatening on the attack and showed what your capable of, but imo you looked pretty disorganised and unfit. With about 20-25 minutes to go, I looked at your side and about 6-7 of them were bent over panting, and that would concern me if I was a Wigan fan.

Does this make me a category 3/C fan as i didn't attend and then subsequently found out the score whilst in the pub on sky news??

We lost due to missing opportunities.
Hull made one good move all game and scored with R Horne.
Their main idea was hoof it and hope. Hope was realised when Roberts let the ball bounce. Although the pass from Tickle to Radford for his try was well forward that should teach players not to let bombs bounce.
Hulls 2nd try was from Smith's kick into touch on the full, they scored from the set.
Goulding was tackled hard by Yeaman when he might have scored similar with Tomkins. When Byrne knocked on we didn't score we dropped the ball from the scrum.
As more players got injured the more mistakes we made. Bailey shouldn't have gone out again but had to. Richards was injured as was Roberts, Bailey busted, Phelps hamstring & Riddell ankle gone!
We didn't complete one of last 10 sets (Noble).
God help us when we come up against a really big pack!
BTW where did they get Radford from MOM? G Horne by a mile for me!