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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Singleton out for 8 weeks.
Should play Hill on Sunday as surely he’ll be needed over the next few months. Best to start in a lower intensity game.
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| Quote: NSW "Singleton out for 8 weeks.
Should play Hill on Sunday as surely he’ll be needed over the next few months. Best to start in a lower intensity game.'"
Agree.
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| Quote: NSW "Singleton out for 8 weeks.
Should play Hill on Sunday as surely he’ll be needed over the next few months. Best to start in a lower intensity game.'"
yes
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| Quote: NSW "Singleton out for 8 weeks.
Should play Hill on Sunday as surely he’ll be needed over the next few months. Best to start in a lower intensity game.'"
yep
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "You've misunderstood me.
I'm not saying you don't decide to lift your feet off the floor, I'm saying you don't think about the risk of injury. Your sole intention is making the tackle which as you say you're struggling to do.
With a shoulder charge or swinging arm your intent is to hurt your opponent (not to injure them btw) to win the battle.'"
I disagree. A swinging arm and a shoulder charge are often as a result of a mis-timed tackle or the attacker changing direction/height not as intent to hurt.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "You've misunderstood me.
I'm not saying you don't decide to lift your feet off the floor, I'm saying you don't think about the risk of injury. Your sole intention is making the tackle which as you say you're struggling to do.
With a shoulder charge or swinging arm your intent is to hurt your opponent (not to injure them btw) to win the battle.'"
I still disagree Egg. If you're swinging your entire weight on someone, you know there's a risk of injury to that person. I really can't see how a player would suddenly forget that.
If you believe that to be the case, how can you say that someone deciding to swing an arm or throw a punch will not forget in much the same way? Doesn't make any sense. Either both are culpable or neither are, surely?
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I still disagree Egg. If you're swinging your entire weight on someone, you know there's a risk of injury to that person. I really can't see how a player would suddenly forget that.
If you believe that to be the case, how can you say that someone deciding to swing an arm or throw a punch will not forget in much the same way? Doesn't make any sense. Either both are culpable or neither are, surely?'"
I'm in no way saying it's a good tackle, I just don't think Knowles has gone out to hurt him or that the thought even crossed his mind. He's simply trying to tackle him and stop him making further yards.
You shoot out the line to put a big hit in your intention is to hurt (not injure) that player. It's the gladiatorial aspect we all love.
Don't think I mentioned punches BTW
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| Players celebrate big shots for example shouting at the player on the ground that needs a minute before they get up.
Nobody does that tackle and then stands over a player shouting.
Nobody goes out to injure a player like the Keane/Haaland incident in football (I hope) but there are occasions you intend to hurt.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "I'm in no way saying it's a good tackle, I just don't think Knowles has gone out to hurt him or that the thought even crossed his mind. He's simply trying to tackle him and stop him making further yards.
You shoot out the line to put a big hit in your intention is to hurt (not injure) that player. It's the gladiatorial aspect we all love.
Don't think I mentioned punches BTW'"
I don't think anyone is claiming that he intentionally goes out to hurt him. Not that I've seen anyway. That doesn't mean he suddenly forgets the potential risk of injury in this type of tackle, though, in much the same way as the aforementioned swinging arm or punch (I wasn't suggesting you said punch btw. I was merely giving it as an example.)
Let me try this. No one takes a bungee jump with the intention of hurting themselves. That doesn't mean that they aren't aware of the potential risk. The two are not the same thing and I specifically said this in the original posts.
I feel, perhaps, that we're discussing two separate things here or are discussing two different points as if they're two sides of the same argument when they aren't.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I feel, perhaps, that we're discussing two separate things here or are discussing two different points as if they're two sides of the same argument when they aren't.'"
You're probably right there, but at least we agree he didn't intend to deliberately injure him.
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| Cooper has confirmed in the Mirror that he’s looking to play on, hopes that’s at Wigan and is confident it will be.
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| Regardless of what happens in the future with Cooper, losing him this year is a huge hit. Probably the best front rower we had, consistent and someone who the younger forwards can follow. Losing Ellis and to a lesser extent Singleton has left us up against it.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Cooper has confirmed in the Mirror that he’s looking to play on, hopes that’s at Wigan and is confident it will be.'"
The club will do everything they can to make that happen as well.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Cooper has confirmed in the Mirror that he’s looking to play on, hopes that’s at Wigan and is confident it will be.'"
Good. He’s a solid prop forward and I’m glad he won’t retire off the back of this. Hopefully he comes back in as good a form as he was when he got injured, he’ll be like a new signing when he is back and a good boost at an important part of the season.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "There’s only so long a repeat offender can drop ‘lucky’ that he doesn’t injure somebody as well. He’s caused 18 months worth of injuries, in the last 6 months, with the same tackle and I believe had a caution in between for the same offence. He’s been looked at 44 times in 5 years by the RFL (great stat from the new Wigan way podcast, that the unbelievably dirty, thuggish, Micky Mac has been looked at 43 times in 15 years). His punishments need to get heavier going forward if he doesn’t change his ways. He is putting players careers at risk.'"
Now sent off for a crazy head high shot with 30 seconds to go in an already won cup tie.
No excuses can be made now.
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