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| Quote: sergeant pepper "To put it bluntly, the fans will be the issue.
If Peet comes in and doesn't win another game, or even just gets pumped by Leeds, then we know what the chatter will be like. He'll have an even bigger fight on his hands.'"
For me he’s already under the pump, rumours already starting about him actually being in control (which I don’t buy to be totally honest) and irrespective of whether you believe them or not, it paints a bad picture already. Then you’ve got the perception that it’s done on the cheap, the reality that it’s his first head coaching job.
I hope he proves all those doubts and rumours wrong and that his alleged appointment is a success but as I say, even before he starts he’s up against it. My gut feeling is that it’s not going to end well.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "The whole situation is farcical. Like you said, most if not everyone could see our issues months ago but we did nothing about it.
I’m sick and tired of talking about it. It’s genuinely draining any enthusiasm I have because a coaching change and just an idea of what to do with the ball this season isn’t over. I’m not saying we’d win it, that’s borderline delusional, but we could have a bloody good crack. Instead we’ll drop out the 6 and limp to the seasons end and for what? So Rads doesn’t upset his p**spot mate?
No one person should be bigger than the club but at the minute it looks evermore like Adrian Lam is. I’d love to know what he’s got on IL or Rads. Whatever it is it’s got to be good for him to be so useless but stay in a job for so long.'"
Part of it is that IL doesn't sack people mid season. There's something good be said about that, but there also has to be a point or line where enough is enough.
There's only what, 4 or 5 games left this year? That's the only thing getting me through it.
Sad really as I've managed to talk 8 or so people into coming on Wednesday. They are lapsed fans & bringing their young kids with them for the 1st time. I'm genuinely apprehensive for how it will turn out tho. There's going to be underlying atmosphere of frustration imo and, if it goes bad, the 1st memory those kids are gonna have of the club are of disgruntled fans.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Part of it is that IL doesn't sack people mid season. There's something good be said about that, but there also has to be a point or line where enough is enough.
There's only what, 4 or 5 games left this year? That's the only thing getting me through it.
Sad really as I've managed to talk 8 or so people into coming on Wednesday. They are lapsed fans & bringing their young kids with them for the 1st time. I'm genuinely apprehensive for how it will turn out tho. There's going to be underlying atmosphere of frustration imo and, if it goes bad, the 1st memory those kids are gonna have of the club are of disgruntled fans.'"
It’s a game that should be winnable. Leeds aren’t a great side but a good one and improving, still we have enough in our ranks to win but we all know there’s more than a good chance of yet another utter farcical showing.
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| We wont win every time we get a good crowd on we lose. The club has let fans in for £10 and some of them will have not watched rugby before and go home disillusioned when they lose so instead of picking up more spectators the opposite could effect.Hope we put up a good show and win cant see it though.
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| Leeds have got some talented young players and I'm sure they'll throw the ball around a bit; we should do the same. We certainly won't beat anyone with the pedestrian attack we've seen lately. But I feel as pessimistic as most of you guys,not least re Peet; even with the best will in the world, the guy is on the back foot from Day 1.
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| According to Lam on Wigan TV, we were in good shape at half time last Friday.
Crazy.
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| Quote: NSW "According to Lam on Wigan TV, we were in good shape at half time last Friday.
Crazy.'"
i suppose in 1 sense he was right. Saints had only looked like scoring once and then an easy ball steal on the line, so i could understand if thats where he was coming from
outside of that, we had created nothing at all in attack and hadnt put any form of pressure on Saints defensively, and the build up of ball / pressure showed in the 2nd half as tehy didnt need to do that much to win the game
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| Quote: NSW "According to Lam on Wigan TV, we were in good shape at half time last Friday.
Crazy.'"
It’s that kind of delusion that infuriates me. How can Rads and IFL not see through this delusion? If he thinks we were in great shape at HT our standards have fallen not so much through the floor but all the way to Earths core.
Uncle Mo wasn’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination but this wouldn’t have been accepted. This policy of not sacking a coach mid season is codswallop. It really is. You’re not telling me a guy who is on a year to year contract would have been expensive to fire off? You’re also not thing me that we couldn’t afford to fire him off and get a better coach in? Aka Brian McDermott?
I find myself getting so disillusioned with Wigan RL these days. I can’t bring myself to find anything positive about the place. And that’s actually quite upsetting really. I don’t remember feeling like this about Wigan even in 2006.
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| to be fair, I was 'happy' with the score at half time, had we anything in attack, we could have been poised for an exciting second half.....
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| Quote: moto748 "Leeds have got some talented young players and I'm sure they'll throw the ball around a bit; we should do the same. We certainly won't beat anyone with the pedestrian attack we've seen lately. But I feel as pessimistic as most of you guys,not least re Peet; even with the best will in the world, the guy is on the back foot from Day 1.'"
I’m not sure that we can fix our many issues before tomorrow night which has been further compounded by the latest bans on two of our most experienced players.
I agree with you 100% that our single biggest issue is that we are so slow in attack that we will be vulnerable against any team and with Leeds needing wins to move up the table another defeat I think is almost inevitable.
I am a bit nonplussed with the Peet appointment and on balance would probably go with a new broom so to speak however, there would be as much risk in going that route so at this point I just hope that IL has made the right decision.
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| This weeks BBC RL 5Live Podcast has Kevin Brown, Phil Wilkinson and Gareth Walker on all discussing Wigan and not once do any of them mention the main issue - the coach.
KB almost gets there but bottles it. Phil Wilkinson plays it like we’re all fickle and it’ll be reet if we win 2 games and Gareth Walker just a mix of both. Why do we have such abysmal journalists and pundits who are scared of touching the real issue? If this was football and say Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool the press would be circling like vultures. I’m not saying that’s right but at least they’ve got bottle to actually say what the fans are thinking and not make it up like PW.
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| Depending on who PW speaks too, that may be right. There'll be plenty of people who think he's been unlucky with injuries etc and was "2 mins away from winning the grand final"
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Depending on who PW speaks too, that may be right. There'll be plenty of people who think he's been unlucky with injuries etc and was "2 mins away from winning the grand final"'"
TBH I feel it is a bit of both.
I think it’s time for a change and I don’t feel Lam is getting what he should out of this team and hasn’t done throughout his tenure.
Having said that there are a number of mitigating factors that are out of Lam’s control. We have, yet again had a significant number of injuries and we are clearly fatigued with the frequency of games we have played. He doesn’t have the personnel up front which the GB fiasco was meant to resolve.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "This weeks BBC RL 5Live Podcast has Kevin Brown, Phil Wilkinson and Gareth Walker on all discussing Wigan and not once do any of them mention the main issue - the coach.
KB almost gets there but bottles it. Phil Wilkinson plays it like we’re all fickle and it’ll be reet if we win 2 games and Gareth Walker just a mix of both. Why do we have such abysmal journalists and pundits who are scared of touching the real issue? If this was football and say Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool the press would be circling like vultures. I’m not saying that’s right but at least they’ve got bottle to actually say what the fans are thinking and not make it up like PW.'"
Local media struggle with the football as well as the rugby. I suppose it’s probably to do with access to the clubs and it being removed as is sometimes the case elsewhere. The level of scrutiny doesn’t go anywhere near far enough which is why last week’s mauling by Sculthorpe et al, although painful to watch, actually had a lot of truth in it.
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