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| It works for the Aussies because most teams have multiple players who pick up points in the voting. Here we’ve got stuck in a rut of Huddersfield win, so it’s 3 points for Sezer, Cas win and it’s 3 points for McShane. Who else on those two sides is going to stop those two guys picking up regular points? Last season Hastings said he felt Lomax had out performed him and whilst I didn’t really agree, it was a landslide for Hastings because if Salford won, he’d get 3 points more often than not. Saints win and Lomax may get 3 but then so could Roby, so could Coote, Walmsley, Thompson etc.
It just doesn’t work in superleague IMO.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It works for the Aussies because most teams have multiple players who pick up points in the voting. Here we’ve got stuck in a rut of Huddersfield win, so it’s 3 points for Sezer, Cas win and it’s 3 points for McShane. Who else on those two sides is going to stop those two guys picking up regular points? Last season Hastings said he felt Lomax had out performed him and whilst I didn’t really agree, it was a landslide for Hastings because if Salford won, he’d get 3 points more often than not. Saints win and Lomax may get 3 but then so could Roby, so could Coote, Walmsley, Thompson etc.
It just doesn’t work in superleague IMO.'"
thats because there isnt a bit gulf between the aussie teams in terms of class
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Same way as last year with points throughout the season based on performance. They tend to hide the scores for the last few rounds though.'"
I thought that too so why is Bevan French on a 5 man short list when he’s 10th on the points list and Sam Tomkins not on the shortlist when he’s 5th?
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| Quote: NickyKiss "The leagues best player this season has been Bevan French without any shadow of a doubt'"
Its been Alex Walmsley according to some
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""Its been Alex Walmsley according to some'"
In fairness he’s a player that proves the argument that the system is totally flawed. He’s been in the top five without any shadow of a doubt yet isn’t nominated. He isn’t nominated because Saints have the best player in superleague in every position according to some guys on RedVee, so he can’t possibly get enough points as they’ll be shared around that team of legends.
Ok the last bit was a joke but the point stands.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "The system isn’t working for me. We’re basically going to get the stand out player in a reasonable team winning it every year as they have little competition for game points within their team. The leagues best player this season has been Bevan French without any shadow of a doubt IMO but he has to scrap for points with Faz, Hastings and so on, so it becomes next to impossible to win it for a player in a top side, who have a few standouts.
This is what you’re left with when you give the vote to the players and a reasonable percentage of them make a mockery of it with joke votes.'"
I agree with what you said although I don’t think French has even been our best player, he does exiting things nobody else in the league does but for me Farrell has been our best player and I think Walmsley has probably been the best player in the league imo.
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| Quote: CobraCraig "I agree with what you said although I don’t think French has even been our best player, he does exiting things nobody else in the league does but for me Farrell has been our best player and I think Walmsley has probably been the best player in the league imo.'"
I think that would be my top 3 and it could be in any order (although I think French has added something a bit special to our side that nobody else in the league has to their teams) but I think we’ll see Sezer win it, McShane 2nd and then probably Faz 3rd looking at the points before it went behind closed doors.
It sort of sums up how the whole game is run. It’s like a primary school sports day wanting to give everyone a chance.
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""Its been Alex Walmsley according to some'"
Farrell has made more metres than Walmsley, double the number of tackles and marker tackles this season. Don't think Walmsley is MOS this year (as good as he is).
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| Quote: Trainman "I thought that too so why is Bevan French on a 5 man short list when he’s 10th on the points list and Sam Tomkins not on the shortlist when he’s 5th?'"
Yeah that confused me. I presumed it was because of the points being hidden recently and he has shot up the table
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Yeah that confused me. I presumed it was because of the points being hidden recently and he has shot up the table'"
Sucks for Sam if he's missed out through Catalans not having as many games
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| Surely James Roby will win it?
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| Quote: Grimmy "Sucks for Sam if he's missed out through Catalans not having as many games'"
It’s on a points per game average.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Yeah that confused me. I presumed it was because of the points being hidden recently and he has shot up the table'"
Because that table is from weeks ago, they stop updating it a few weeks/months before the season end so it’s a secret, French has finished the season strong and must have made his way into the top 5.
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| Quote: CobraCraig "Because that table is from weeks ago, they stop updating it a few weeks/months before the season end so it’s a secret, French has finished the season strong and must have made his way into the top 5.'"
So just as I said then?
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
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| Quote: CobraCraig "It’s on a points per game average.'"
Ahh fair enough cheers
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