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| Quote: nikos "I thought it was a live cap, to ensure that situations like this don't occur from previous seasons, otherwise potentially, medals have to be given back and record books re-written??
Must be something dodgy to get round the live cap eg. payments to relatives, or offshore payments??'"
This has all stemmed from Tony Puletua's tribunal, where he admitted to having two separate employment contracts. One with the club, and another paid via a different company that was owned by Marwan. If only one of those contracts is registered with the RFL, then they would be oblivious to the extra salary he was receiving so the 'live cap' wouldn't pick it up.
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| It's so difficult to criticise a club for showing ambition and spending money their owner has got but they know the rules.
It's clearly been coming because I can't see how you can keep getting players off your books at the drop of a hat without tripping yourselves up at some point. When Lenagan first took over here to took years to reshape the squad. We had players we desperately wanted shut of but we just had to let them run down their deals. It was the same with Saints with the likes of Lance Hohiha. If we had to do that why can Salford bin off 15 players every year? Makes no sense.
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| Quote: Grimmy "I think we're in danger of being a bit too restrictive. It's not like he's managed to bring in a team full of internationals and hammered all the poorer clubs as a result, which is basically the reason the cap was brought in as far as I understand it. They finished 11th out of 14 in 2014 and 4 points off the million pound game last season'"
No, but Bradford were relegated during one of the seasons Salford are alledged to have breached the cap. What is more, they were relegated in a season where they were given a points deduction AND had their salary cap reduced. During this time, if Salford were deliberately circumventing the cap by making secret payments to players, it brings into question the morality and fairness of Bradford's relegation and Salford's retention of SL status, does it not?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "if Salford were deliberately circumventing the cap by making secret payments to players, it brings into question the morality and fairness of Bradford's relegation and Salford's retention of SL status, does it not?'" Maybe, but there's a limit on retrospective punishments. The RFL can only limp-wristedly chuck a damp cloth at Salford for what's now (allegedly) uncovered. Reinstating Bulls is just not possible (what about London?). Their only recourse would be to join with Broncos & make a civil claim against Salford for loss of revenue. Which would probably not get out of the lawyers' offices.
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| Quote: CyberPieMan "Maybe, but there's a limit on retrospective punishments. The RFL can only limp-wristedly chuck a damp cloth at Salford for what's now (allegedly) uncovered. Reinstating Bulls is just not possible (what about London?). Their only recourse would be to join with Broncos & make a civil claim against Salford for loss of revenue. Which would probably not get out of the lawyers' offices.'"
No chance, neither Bradford or London could afford to take it to court I wouldn't imagine.
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| They should have just paid relatives big money to work in the club shop
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| Quote: ploinerrhino "They should have just paid relatives big money to work in the club shop'"
Wondered how Leeds keep all their players.
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| Oh look RL Fans resident legal expert NottinghamTiger popping up on a "Salford Salary Cap Breach" thread! Who'd have thought it?!
Also quite amusing at the outrage from Wigan fans... Pot....Kettle....Black!
If found guilty Salford should be punished and rightly so.... if this is all regarding Puletua it's even more farcical as I can't recall him playing at all last season and seemed to spend most of his time doing community related work within the club. As a Salford fan all I'd ask is for a fair hearing but after 2007 I fear not as we're not (and never will be) considered a big club. Far easier to lose little old Salford than potentially banish the world's biggest RL club to obscurity eh?
Btw, I'm not a Koukash lover.... I do agree with him on some things but he's also not covered himself in glory on numerous occasions. He's actually trying to move the game forward but doesn't always do things the right way.
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| Quote: SaleSlim "outrage from Wigan fans'" Hardly. Just bemusement and possibly a smidge of schadenfreude. I think you'll find (if you take a minute to actually read the comments in this thread) that the primary opinion is that you're badly run & Marwan is largely only reaping what he's sowed.
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| Marwan is on record as effectively saying he'd defy the cap.
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| Quote: SaleSlim "Also quite amusing at the outrage from Wigan fans... Pot....Kettle....Black!
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| Just as Koucash seems to have learned how to build a team his past indiscretions seem to have caught up with him.
A mate of mine who did some work at Salford told me a year ago that they were in clear breach of the cap, so it seems to have been common knowledge. This raises the question of why the RFL have raised it now? My suspicion is that they were keen for Salford to get away with it.
I don't want to see the current players punished by a points deduction which kind of ruins the competition, but I suppose Salford, or more accurately, Koucash, need to be punished.
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| Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Just as Koucash seems to have learned how to build a team his past indiscretions seem to have caught up with him.'"
Is their new 'no frills' squad a case of him learning to build a team or because he knew what was coming and avoided the 'name' signings on big money like Chase and Hock. Was it also because bigger named players were realising not to touch Salford and Koukash with a barge pole after all the soap opera going ons and stories coming out of there regarding player fallouts and payments?
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