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| As I said a couple of years ago, the guy is a "once in a generation" player.
I compared him to being up there with Hanley then and I don't think that is inappropriate.
Talented, competitive and comes over as a really nice guy.
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| See how he goes in the NRL and a few more tests before rating him alongside Hanley.
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Is this a name the NRL team game I have stumbled into?
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Spot on so I’ve heard its New Zealand Warriors, but if it’s just cash that’s really making him go then I blame the RFL. He is the biggest draw in our game, and love him or hate him he does get a great deal of publicity for the sport. The RFL should have made a special case for him in regards cash. I don’t believe all this when they say they want a new challenge, or to improve their game. No, for me its cash and most would go in their position. After all they’re not top footballers they have got to make money when they can. I would like him to stay here, but I’d sooner him go there than to go to RU, the dark side!
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| Quote: pies-r-us "Spot on so I’ve heard its New Zealand Warriors, but if it’s just cash that’s really making him go then I blame the RFL. He is the biggest draw in our game, and love him or hate him he does get a great deal of publicity for the sport. The RFL should have made a special case for him in regards cash. I don’t believe all this when they say they want a new challenge, or to improve their game. No, for me its cash and most would go in their position. After all they’re not top footballers they have got to make money when they can. I would like him to stay here, but I’d sooner him go there than to go to RU, the dark side!'"
The RFL have changed the rules to accommodate Sam's £300,000 a year wage, add on sky money and other streams of income and it's a very competitive wage. However the NZ Warriors are rumoured to be offering Sam more than twice his current contract, so how far do the RFL go?
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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| Quote: TrentBarrett "The RFL have changed the rules to accommodate Sam's £300,000 a year wage, add on sky money and other streams of income and it's a very competitive wage. However the NZ Warriors are rumoured to be offering Sam more than twice his current contract, so how far do the RFL go?'"
As far as they need to. We can't afford to lose him from the game.
We need to be signing their best talent not the other way around.
Rugby League needs to go on the offensive. Let Koukash, Moran and the rest splash out on the worlds top talent, it will be worth it in the long run with the tv money, sponsors and fans it will bring in if the big clubs are not held back like they are right now.
If the RFL let Sam go then they are practically waving the white flag for letting this happen again and again in the future.
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| Quote: Odem "As far as they need to. We can't afford to lose him from the game.
We need to be signing their best talent not the other way around.
Rugby League needs to go on the offensive. Let Koukash, Moran and the rest splash out on the worlds top talent, it will be worth it in the long run with the tv money, sponsors and fans it will bring in if the big clubs are not held back like they are right now.
If the RFL let Sam go then they are practically waving the white flag for letting this happen again and again in the future.'"
I agree with you there, our salary cap needs to at least be on a par with the NRL then we may start to attract the best players instead of the majority of them being on the decline when they come over.
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| Unrealistic unfortunately. We don't have the cash in the sport to match the Aussies and our own chairman is leading the campaign to limit players' earnings as far as I can see.
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| Quote: Odem "As far as they need to. We can't afford to lose him from the game.
We need to be signing their best talent not the other way around.
Rugby League needs to go on the offensive. Let Koukash, Moran and the rest splash out on the worlds top talent, it will be worth it in the long run with the tv money, sponsors and fans it will bring in if the big clubs are not held back like they are right now.
If the RFL let Sam go then they are practically waving the white flag for letting this happen again and again in the future.'"
I thought the impetus for this move was the club, not Tomkins, the RFL and sky to a certain extent have done as much as possible to keep Sam in the game, but if we are talking about trebling a salary we cant get near that, there just isnt the cash in the game. But at the end of the day, he has the much vaunted clause that he cant talk to teams till next year, so unless the club are pushing it through............
how does it follow that splashing the cash will have sponsors and fans flocking to the game, we cant get a title sponsor now, there is way more to fix with the game first before we start thinking about scrapping the salary cap and letting clubs spend as much as they want, we have been there before, it didnt work!
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| Quote: Scadge1 "I agree with you there, our salary cap needs to at least be on a par with the NRL then we may start to attract the best players instead of the majority of them being on the decline when they come over.'"
where is the cash going to come from?
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| Perhaps if chairman were allowed to inject the money they want to (koukash, Pearson, Moran etc) then good players come across and crowds/revenue picks up? I know it's a potential risk but as they say you have to speculate to accumulate
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| If the rumours about Salford are true, KouKash is borrowing the money to prop up salford, he isnt using his own, how sure are we that Moran Pearson actually want to spend thier own money on rudby club, we cant rely on sugar daddies.
most sports outside the pemiershiop have, or are looking at some kind of bugetry control, the money just isnt there anymore unless you are man u
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| Quote: Lazy J "If the rumours about Salford are true, KouKash is borrowing the money to prop up salford, he isnt using his own, how sure are we that Moran Pearson actually want to spend thier own money on rudby club, we cant rely on sugar daddies.
most sports outside the pemiershiop have, or are looking at some kind of bugetry control, the money just isnt there anymore unless you are man u'"
I've heard/read some rather interesting things about Koukash and how he's funding Salford, the rugby league Roman Abramovich image he has created seems to me like a facade.
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| Quote: Scadge1 "Perhaps if chairman were allowed to inject the money they want to (koukash, Pearson, Moran etc) then good players come across and crowds/revenue picks up? I know it's a potential risk but as they say you have to speculate to accumulate'"
Wigan did this in the 90s, and by all accounts, nearly bankrupted the club.
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