Does seem odd that under P & R Widnes would not have got into SL.
Also now they are in, if there had been P & R they'd have been relegated.
How P & R will help the game by increasing revenue or levels of competiveness I don't know.
Widnes had 16 - 18 months notice and still couldn't compete, so how is a club with 3-4 months notice going to compete? Answer, they are not!
If the RFL/SL want to increase revenue they first have to start with their existing competitons, SL, Challenge Cup, Play offs and Grand Final.
So lets see what they come up with in that regard.

Whilst we are at it, there's a headline on the BBC site with regards to the RFU plans for their world cup in 2015.

£1 million to train 6,500 referees and coaches, works out at £153.85 each do you think they've got their figure correct?

Here's an idea to make SL better IL. Stop voting to preserve the CC, get your hand in your pocket and get some Marquee players back into the game.

It's this kind of player that used to get us excited at Wigan. No-one want's to watch mediocrity, no matter how much the "average" player may or may not have improved.

It's players like Boston (who, let's be honest would probably get picked up and dumped on his arris by someone like Hall, as wingers have changed since "his day". This is exactly the point I am making though, for in "his day" he was exceptional, a player who would bring in supporters and excite the crowd. It doesn't matter that in absolute terms he would now be playing for Leigh, in his time he was standout). It's exactly this relative argument that holds today. Supporters want to see stars, stars relative to their contemporaries. A better standard of player leads to a very dull game if every player is at "that" standard.

This holds as much for any sport as it does RL, and is one of the prime reasons why the CC is flawed, but that's another story.

I'm not actually sure of the point that IL is making (if indeed there was one at all) in that article.

What a waste of two days.

Let's have a meting to discuss the last meeting.

What a waste of two days. Let's have a meting to discuss the last meeting. www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/100 ... _s_future/

What a waste of two days. Let's have a meting to discuss the last meeting. www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/100 ... _s_future/

That is, without doubt, the biggest load of garbage I have ever read on this forum. You obviously never saw Billy play. He was world-class then and would have been world-class today. An all-time great of the game, who would not be "dumped on his arris" by anybody from any era.

That might make sense to most people on here but this is the RFL we are talking about! The things you mention are perfectly sensible but would mean changes and (say this quietly) spending money on the game.

Or just send the best of out talent to the NRL and let them improve them - a much cheaper option! Job done.