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| Quote: inside_man "18 minutes is far too early. He wasn't meaning leaving them on for the whole half, but when our props are so clearly dominating and not tired why would you take them off.
If you are going to rotate props i genuinely do not understand why he then takes them both off at the same time, why not take one off so your only changing one player at a time!'"
As i said it was obviously the plan that being 8-0 up we were going to throw Feka and Fielden on and really take the game to them since the intial sting looked to of been knocked out of them at that point. I very much doubt Noble expected F and F to be so damn terrible.
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| Quote: Connor The Warrior "Leave them on until they need to come off would be a start.'"
So burn them out totally in the first half?
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
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Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "As i said it was obviously the plan that being 8-0 up we were going to throw Feka and Fielden on and really take the game to them since the intial sting looked to of been knocked out of them at that point. I very much doubt Noble expected F and F to be so damn terrible.'"
Well lets see Fielden's been crap for about 2 years so he should have seen that one coming, and Feka well what can you say, he's got a hell of a lot of problems that need fixing.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "So burn them out totally in the first half?'"
Wouldnt happen. Water rest would be sufficient. In comparison to Morley, 18mins is shocking.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Because Fielden and Feka were supposed to give us extra go-forward. Yes we was in front but we have to bring them on at some point or do you suggest leaving them on the bench for the entire game if we are winning?'" ]
Extra go forward? Feka maybe, but Fielden is not an impact prop and offers '0' go forward. Should have started with Fielden and Prescott. Shocking tactics by Noble
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| Quote: Madderzahatter " Extra go forward? Feka maybe, but Fielden is not an impact prop and offers '0' go forward.'"
The idea is Fielden will do the hard work in defence that Feka cant and Feka will punch the holes down the middle in attack.
Quote: Madderzahatter " Should have started with Fielden and Prescott. Shocking tactics by Noble '"
Really makes me laugh all this Anti-Noble stuff. If he had picked Fielden to start and we had lost you would be on his back for starting with Fielden! The man cannot win no matter what he does. He has picked the players that have done so well for the past month or two end of chat.
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Because Fielden and Feka were supposed to give us extra go-forward. Yes we was in front but we have to bring them on at some point or do you suggest leaving them on the bench for the entire game if we are winning?'"
a) Fielden has given f*ck all go forward for quite a while now, certainly if we're talking of 'impact'
b) Why bring Feka on when we're about to kick off to Warrington? In the 13 minutes he was on, I think we had one real set of six. Feka was f*cked by the time he finally got the ball.
Agree with the OP; the moment these subs were made, we lost the match.
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| I have never rated paleosina, today he and he alone gifted wire the match. I am sure he is a nice bloke, but he should not be allowed to play for wigan again, the other players must groan when they see him coming on.
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
Esse quam videri.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45658.jpg |
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| Quote: manxie "I have never rated paleosina, today he and he alone gifted wire the match. I am sure he is a nice bloke, but he should not be allowed to play for wigan again, the other players must groan when they see him coming on.'"
I must admit although I really like the guy he's getting worse, his fitness is getting worse and thats contributing to his overall poor play.
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| Quote: jonh "Cost us the game today, why for the love of god did he rotate the Props after 18 minutes given how dominant we were, they were showing no signs of fatigue Fielden and Feka on, all momentum lost, Wire put in a match winning 20.
Shocking call.
You reap what you sow sadly.
You cannot expect to start playing rugby at the business end of the season and the passes stick combined with the subing by the clock which was the major contribution in my opinion to us losing a very winable match.'"
To be honest jonh, Fecka and Fielden really need to be shown the door, the amount of cap they must be taking up, (especially Fielden), could free up enough £ for 3 - 4 forwards that will be willing to put 100% in for the club in more than 10 minute bursts. Until you sort your pack out, you are always going to struggle.
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| Feka was one of the main reasons we lost today, TonySmiths game plan was very good, as soon as Feka came on they ran at him time and time again, he is fat and slow getting into the marker position and they ran round him making easy yards. they had scored three tries on the bounce before Feka got a run by which time he was knackered and taken off after only spending 10 mins on the pitch. that cost us the game and paul prescotts inability not to have a knockonathon every game
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| Since we have Paleaaesina until the end of next year at least, the obvious solution is to get in a fitness coach/conditioner who actually knows what he is doing.
A proper nutritionist also wouldn't go a miss.
From there it's down to Feka to want to do it.
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| Quote: Panda Antics "
Agree with the OP; the moment these subs were made, we lost the match.'"
No sherlock! The problem is though there is no saying had we not made the changes we would of won which makes Jonh post a bit of an easy stab at Noble which he loves so much.
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| You can't blame Prescott. The damage had already been done by then. Wire took the foot off the gas and the team gave us false hope. How many times has that happened over the past few months???
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| Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "No poop sherlock! The problem is though there is no saying had we not made the changes we would of won which makes Jonh post a bit of an easy stab at Noble which he loves so much.'"
If we didn't make the changes who knows what would have happened?
The fact we did make the changes at the same time and in the given situation was a disaster from Noble.
It was obvious what would happen from then on in.
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