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Quote: Big Steve "Borderline recklessness has been the foundation of Saints attitude in defence. By saying you are committed and couldn't do anything is not an excuse - if you charge at someone in a reckless manner then you are going to commit reckless tackles.

Just as many players have changed they way they charge at kickers and are now much more controlled in their contact there has to be an element of responsibility with the tackler to be able to make a safe tackle.'"


Correct
Matty Lees has been walking a tightrope with this for a few months now
He did 2 against Warrington 1 High on Dufty iirc were yes he was falling to receive the ball but Lees is flying in and can't control where he hits if he alters his position, and 1 were his knees made contact with a head when he was charging in at 100mph, yes at that speed things can go wrong and he may be only slightly out, but flying in with no regard for what your going to hit, how the other player may alter his position is reckless.
Hes done a couple others after that match also (not seen this week's so can't comment).

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It's not a good one Jukesy:

https://twitter.com/RyanFis38416360/sta ... o6l_w&s=19

I've got to say I object to Stu calling it a "lazy arm" too if I'm honest. That's as clear a deliberate attack as you'll see.
It's not a good one Jukesy:

https://twitter.com/RyanFis38416360/sta ... o6l_w&s=19

I've got to say I object to Stu calling it a "lazy arm" too if I'm honest. That's as clear a deliberate attack as you'll see.


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Two matches for Lees

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I don’t know the ins and outs of all the bans like for like, incidents looked at by the disciplinary, injuries caused etc but it feels like we got far more stick, for far fewer incidents under Maguire/Wane than Saints have done this past few seasons.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I don’t know the ins and outs of all the bans like for like, incidents looked at by the disciplinary, injuries caused etc but it feels like we got far more stick, for far fewer incidents under Maguire/Wane than Saints have done this past few seasons.'"


Agreed. And as I think it was you pointed out, Smithies always gets dragged into this conversation but only conceded 4 penalties last season. Hence when up before the disciplinary this season he only got one match. But past reputations seem to stick in some quarters.

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Having said that, seems unfair to take the ankle injury into account regarding Lees. When Lockers high tackled Chris Annakin (sp) at Wakey a few years ago and he did his knee, their fans wanted him banned for a long period. Wasn't right then and it isn't now.

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Re the Lees incident that carry came after a pen given for Wright's high shot on Ritson that he should have been at least sin binned for

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Quote: thesaint71 "Re the Lees incident that carry came after a pen given for Wright's high shot on Ritson that he should have been at least sin binned for'"


doesnt make it right though does it icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif

having seen it, i didnt think it was worth a D Grade and 2 games is about right

Isa has been handed 2 games for an almost perfect tackle, but he let go marginally as he dumped the player, so on one hand he's got off lightly, but as above think 2 is about right

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Quote: Stanfax "Agreed. And as I think it was you pointed out, Smithies always gets dragged into this conversation but only conceded 4 penalties last season. Hence when up before the disciplinary this season he only got one match. But past reputations seem to stick in some quarters.'"


The Smithies stuff is crackers. He mouths off a bit, no more and no less. His record in terms of penalties is fine. He’s been done by the disciplinary once or twice solely on the chatter that surrounds him IMO.

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Isa is also branded as a thug for going in at 100% at times regardless of damage to himself -but he's only a small % of the equivalent from Saints where there are a good half dozen players you could say the same of.

I admire they way Saints keep their level of intensity and commitment, it makes them so hard to beat even when they are getting outplayed and offering little in attack, but there is a (naturally) very one eyed way they have when branding us as thugs.

AS said previously, there is a fine line between intensity and recklessness and Saints have frequently overstepped it the past few seasons.

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Quote: Big Steve "Isa is also branded as a thug for going in at 100% at times regardless of damage to himself -but he's only a small % of the equivalent from Saints where there are a good half dozen players you could say the same of.'"

In fairness Isa gets called that because of that game where he proper lost his head against them a couple of years ago. Other than that I think his aggression and control have been pretty decent.

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