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Quote: Bigredwarrior "I'm a Wigan fan but right first time. I'm a police officer and I work in St Helen's.'"



In which case; do you know the numpty with the stick?
If so, tell him how much pleasure he gave us in entertaining us for half an hour matching round yet not knowing his elbow from his .

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I know him very well. He's a great bloke but even I was amused by him on Friday.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "I'm a Wigan fan but right first time. I'm a police officer and I work in St Helen's.'"


Can I ask you Bigredwarrior (in your capacity as a Police Officer) if you think it was appropriate action to evict a lad (he looked under 16) from the ground for alledgedly throwing a toilet roll?

Personally, although not condoning people throwing toilet rolls, I think it is way over the top. I also wonder how the steward managed to pick this lad out of the crowd?

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "I know him very well. He's a great bloke but even I was amused by him on Friday.'"


As a policeman could you tell me if it's an offence for a police officer to spread malicious, unfounded rumours and untruths about an innocent group of fans?

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Quote: EastStandFaithful "Can I ask you Bigredwarrior (in your capacity as a Police Officer) if you think it was appropriate action to evict a lad (he looked under 16) from the ground for alledgedly throwing a toilet roll?

Personally, although not condoning people throwing toilet rolls, I think it is way over the top. I also wonder how the steward managed to pick this lad out of the crowd?'"



It is a condition of entry and that decision is one for the stewards. The police assist the stewards to prevent a breach of the peace. Basically, to stop people kicking off with the stewards!

It's supposed to be a deterrent to stop others doing it. Clearly it didn't work. It does semm OTT but I understand the reasons for it. There have been times when bricks and bottles are put in the roll and hit other fans.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "It is a condition of entry and that decision is one for the stewards. The police assist the stewards to prevent a breach of the peace. Basically, to stop people kicking off with the stewards!

It's supposed to be a deterrent to stop others doing it. Clearly it didn't work. It does semm OTT but I understand the reasons for it. There have been times when bricks and bottles are put in the roll and hit other fans.'"


Did they have the lids on? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "It is a condition of entry and that decision is one for the stewards. The police assist the stewards to prevent a breach of the peace. Basically, to stop people kicking off with the stewards!

It's supposed to be a deterrent to stop others doing it. Clearly it didn't work. It does semm OTT but I understand the reasons for it. There have been times when bricks and bottles are put in the roll and hit other fans.'"


big red - thanks for your honest reply and I accept your answer.

Can I ask that you pass onto your colleagues that we feel the stewarding and policing was over-zealous and to keep order at such events in future it may be better to take a more pragmatic approach.

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Quote: EastStandFaithful " I also wonder how the steward managed to pick this lad out of the crowd?'"



The went for the smallest, youngest lad they could find. 15 years old. Threw him out without his jacket which had his money and train ticket home in it.
I believe his Grandad had to leave the stadium as well to make sure he was OK

The bobbie with the stick was hilarious. Not a standard looking Police truncheon, more a kind of polished baseball bat, the kind they probably get after 50 years service or something. Stood there slapping it into the palm of his hand mouthing "you're next" to 14 year old kids

Also, stewards were thieving stuff from the fans they searched. Seeing as they are from a firm of bouncers I'm reluctant to leave a name & address with FIOS or the Police.

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Already done it mate. I commented on it at the end of the game. There were hardly any stewards around the rest of the ground but loads in front of us. That inspector will be attending a full debrief on Tuesday and he will present the feedback to the club. There was a big presence as it was the first full house and some twitchy bums! I think it'll calm down as they get used to bigger crowds.

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Well I hope that inspector takes responsibility for his actions and apologises to the lad and his grandad. Your post sounds as if the police are sloping shoulders on this and blaming the stewards.

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I'm not defending anybody but the police only deal with criminal matters. Ground regulations are the stewards responsibility.

As much as I love this forum, I'm gonna end my involvement in this thread as I have said my bit. You chaps crack on with your debate.

The important part is 28-10 FIOS

Good night!

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "I'm not defending anybody but the police only deal with criminal matters. Ground regulations are the stewards responsibility.

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This has been my experience at football matches over the years and is generally a bit of a cop out (no pun intended) and is used by stewards to carry out their legalised thuggery and general mis treatment of "scum fans" and used by the Police to turn a blind eye to it until "scum fan" retalliates.

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Quote: Lippy "

Late into the game someone from the back did throw a nearly full bottle of beer down to front, hitting the advertisement boards.'"



We don't do ourselves any favours when we get be**ends doing this. You go to enough away games and you get covered in beer at some point lobbed by someone who thinks it funny. It's not bright and ain't funny and if you're reading this then catch on a bit.

We're the best away fans in SL and everything that the Brigantes have done have enhanced the pleasure of watching Wigan. Shame to have our reputation spoilt by a mindless few

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