I agree with that.

Have a look at the pre-season predictions thread on the VT, you will find a lot of neutrals putting Wigan as the nearest challengers to Leeds/Stains.

HTH

I dont think the majority of fans would question Nobles commitment, the guy has a great attitude and has a lot of friends in the game, but he is simply out of his depth, i hope Lenegan deals with this swifty and in the correct manner.

I would agree, I hope it is done correctly and acknowledges the work Noble has done for the club in relation to rebuilding the backroom / Orrell etc.

However, I now see no option but to part ways.

Strongly disagree with this. Would credit him from bringing us a level of competance prior to this season but in truth i think now Trent Barrett should get more of that credit than Brian Noble.

One of the first things he did was identify the need for a facility like Orrell. Whilst it was DW that funded it, it was Nobles project.

I think any coach worth there salt would have identified this to be honest, all the other clubs have a facility, maybe not as impressive but just as effective if not more so, from what i have seen the facility looks very impressive and expensive but much of it is non functional and asthetically pleasing to the untrained eye but finances could of and should have been spent in other more direct areas.

Regarding the backroom staff, his key appointment in my opinion is failing.

There is no other option but to say Thank You Brian (in a nice way) and appoint an experienced Aussie coach with a top class backroom staff.

Nathan Brown was struggling in the NRL at the Dragons but has been a revealation at Hudds and all the coaches that have pops at his teams style of play is just an excuse for their lack of ideas and the fact he has brought the NRL's wrestling plays to Hudds but hey their second.

Watching around 5 NRL games every weekend has really shocked me in my judgement of how the SL is in comparison, a currently unemployed coach like Folkes or Murray would significantly improve our perfomances but if we put a temporary coach in place and waited until the end of the season and offered a coach of the calibre of Bellamy a contract it would be worth waiting for.

Much of it is non-functional? What do you mean by that?

Given that the finances to develop Orrell came out of DW's back pocket (and then purchased by IL as part of the whole deal) I'm not sure how you expect these 'finances' to have been spent in more direct areas?

The field is functional, not sure much of the gym is, although i have to say never been to it, just from what i have seen on the internet large sections of the gym seem to be very expensive bits of kit that must gather dust for much of the season.

I maybe hold that down to the decisions made by Mick Foreshaw, but at the end of the day BN appointed him as his key advisor in this capacity.

Give over

I think you're perhaps clutching at straws there and I'd also suggest that the gym and entire facility at Orrell is used extensively by the club and will be for many years to come.