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| Darrell Goulding is everything what is right with our youth system.
People moan that we done bring anyone throught, then as soon as they make an error or 2, we wantr id and label them the next Desi Williams.
Goulding as worked hard to get where he is now, and perhaps its Nobles fault that he is in the position he is now as he give him the number 3 shirt last year in only his first full year of SL rugby.
Alright, his game might have a few flaws here and there what he needs to fix but come on - compare him with our other options (excluding Carmont as he is the top centre at Wigan RL)
Cameron Phelps? Taking up a quoto spot when in all fairness, Goulding is as good if not better.
Karl Pryce? Lets see him make the field first.
The only way he is going to develop if he is given a proper run in the team, inside Amos Roberts and given chance to form a partnership with someone.
Hes young, Hes Wigan - Give him a chance.
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| Darrell isn't even 21 yet and believe me, people haven't seen the best of him yet.
After a handful of games in 2006, he had impressive 2007 scoring 10 tries in about 20 games which earned him the no.3 jersey last year. It's understandable that he didn't set the world on fire for his first season as the first choice centre, he's a young lad and was expected to develop a new partnership with Calderwood who himself was injured for the first part of season.
He just needs time in my opinion and an opportunity to build up a partnership with Amos Roberts. One of my only criticisms of Goulding is that he isn't the most creative centre, but his ability to hit the ball at speed towards gaps will attract the opposition centre/winger which will leave space for his winger.
I'd like to see Goulding working on attracting defenders with footwork as well as his pace. Also, I don't want to see him lose much more weight either.
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[size=75:2d8t03fs]Ancient and loyal, upon my chest
they are men of wigans best
a team that plaaayed, the wigan way
and won the championship in may
jim sullivan, he was the king
brian mctigue and johnny ring
a team that plaaayed the wigan way
and won the championship in may
when eric ashton was alive
and billy boston by his side
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oh what a time to be a fan
in 85, at wem-ber-ly
john ferguson and brett kenny
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and won the challenge cup in may
in 95 we won them all
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| If Im honest, I can sort of live with a player having below average defence if their attack is good.Goulding showed good signs of this in 06 and 08 but since, he has been rubbish in my opinion. I cannot think of a single time he has ever passed the ball. certainly not in a good situation. Its so frustrating. if he doesnt sort that out he'll be gone
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: Meyt N Prater Pie "If Im honest, I can sort of live with a player having below average defence if their attack is good.Goulding showed good signs of this in 06 and 08 but since, he has been rubbish in my opinion. I cannot think of a single time he has ever passed the ball. certainly not in a good situation. Its so frustrating. if he doesnt sort that out he'll be gone'"
Didn't he pass it for one of your tries last week?
I'd take him at Saints, defensive lapses and all.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Didn't he pass it for one of your tries last week?
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Yeah, to Bailey.
He bombed two others though.
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| Quote: Alex BP' "Yeah, to Bailey.
He bombed two others though.'"
And he'll bomb many more. He's bound to make wrong options more often than more experienced players.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "And he'll bomb many more. He's bound to make wrong options more often than more experienced players.'"
Exactly.
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| He did not bomb two others and maybe that is the problem. Supporters not knowing what they are watching. He made 1 break and his winger Phelps was nowhere to be seen. He broke again and Byrne pulled off a magnificent tackle that left Byrne doubled over and gasping for air. He then missed 1 possible try. A try that Gidley would have scored, Senior too but other centres lacking a decade plus of experience, no. I do wish supporters would not make incorrect or inaccurate statements.
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| Quote: thezipzipman "He did not bomb two others and maybe that is the problem. Supporters not knowing what they are watching. He made 1 break and his winger Phelps was nowhere to be seen. He broke again and Byrne pulled off a magnificent tackle that left Byrne doubled over and gasping for air. He then missed 1 possible try. A try that Gidley would have scored, Senior too but other centres lacking a decade plus of experience, no. I do wish supporters would not make incorrect or inaccurate statements.'"
No-One as far as I know is blaming him for the one were Phelps should have been outside him.
He should have attempted the Pass in the 1st half but as on numerous occasions his hands werent good enough.
The one in the 2nd half was a shocker, he Should have done a Gardner and fell over the line, he didnt.
It had nothing to do with experience etc. You can have all the experience in the world but is doesnt mean you will or wont score a try in a certain situation.
He tried to step the man and it didnt come off, it was an error, apart from that he had a good game.
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| Goulding yeh made a couple of high profile errors last week but for me he offers much more than Phelps. 1. not on quota 2 hes lost weight but still alot bigger than Phelps 3. Potential, hes still young and only going to get better.
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| Quote: thezipzipman "He broke again and Byrne pulled off a magnificent tackle that left Byrne doubled over and gasping for air. He then missed 1 possible try. A try that Gidley would have scored, Senior too but other centres lacking a decade plus of experience, no. I do wish supporters would not make incorrect or inaccurate statements.'"
He opted for his own pace instead of passing it to his winger, hence why he bombed it.
Nobody is slating Goulding for it, just merely an observation.
I think he will evenutally come good.
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| What Goulding needs is to become one of Nobles undroppables and be given a consistent run in the side, hopefully enabling him to form a partnership with a winger.
The only way he is going to become a better centre is to make a few mistakes, learn from the experience and develop his skills over time - in exactly the same manner that some are advocating for Tomkins.
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| Quote: Meyt N Prater Pie "If Im honest, I can sort of live with a player having below average defence if their attack is good.Goulding showed good signs of this in 06 and 08 but since, he has been rubbish in my opinion. I cannot think of a single time he has ever passed the ball. certainly not in a good situation. Its so frustrating. if he doesnt sort that out he'll be gone'"
This time last year you had given up on Joel and was after shipping him to Widnes permenetly
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| You think he'd be showing a bit more by now that's all. There's usually some break-through performance where you think "blimey, this guy is a good player". Yet to see that yet for mine.
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| Just to mention it again. The lad's 20, still qualifies for the U21s.
He's a good talent but not the finished article.
Noble could do with playing him and Roberts for a number of games to get them used to each other's play.
With Mather's suspension and Roberts to fb this hasn't happened yet.
After his game at Hull last week Goulding deserves an extended run in the first team.
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