O'Loughlin is an absolutely class player, shown by the step up he makes with better players around him at international level. To say that he's not good enough is an absolutely ludicrous statement, and i doubt "most people" would agree with you.

So you think he would be lucky to play in the reserves in 94?

What did Cassidy offer that Locky does not and visa versa that in your opinion makes him a superior player?

Nice to see you have reigned in the keyboard warrior stuff by the way Henry Low would be proud although you did fall to your second trademark "help line" trying to use age to discredit someone who does not agree with you, which is another sign of desperation.

Shame he didn't do it last week



But seriously people like him, Morley etc should be in line to win the MOS but because they don't play for St Helen's or Leeds that rules them out instantly

For me Locky works his t*ts off in defence, we all see that, but he is nowhere near enough of an attacking talent to get close to a chance of being man of steel.

Have to disagree Bilko. Some of Locky's long passes are amazing balls - continually put people in for tries and his drive and offload capability is Farrell-esque.

I've read the first two pages of this thread and almost wet myself laughing. In those pages only there's a significant number of his former 'doubters' asking where his 'doubters' are.

Only RLFANs.

I'll tell you the odd one out. Lockers. He's the only one who didn't have the luxury of playing in our 'great sides'. Get a grip BK. Even you must be able to see the bias in that post!!!

I'm not too young to appreciate Cassidy. Saw his entire career and rate him very highly. Not a patch on O'Loughlin though. You keep giving us players from those great sides to compare Lockers too. Turn those tables and tell me just how good you think Cassidy would have been in the current side. Do you think, week in week out, that he would be the standout player? If you do, your rose tinted spectacles need replacing...

But is BK's opinion really so out of touch with what a lot of supporters really think?

Many of us admire his defence and value his commitment to the cause but if Locky left the club tomorrow would he be hard to replace?

Was he difficult to replace last season when he picked up the injury?

Please don't use that hackneyd old argument. We didn't miss Barrett when he was out last year, but we've missed him this. And how can you say we didn't miss him. How do you know how we would have gone with him in the side!

Hard to replace? Yes! I can't think of a better British back row forward in the game.

Not sure what this has got to do with Barrett?

I think Tompkins more than filled in for Locky last season, so much so that many people where calling for Joel to start ahead of Locky at the start of 2009.

Im not calling Locky a bad player but ive yet to be convinced that he is anything special.

Very true.

Its the same with the Brian Noble debate.