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Never known such an inquest into us winning a game

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Quote: apollosghost "Never known such an inquest into us winning a game'"


Wished he'd gone long now and we'd lost icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Jukesays "Wished he'd gone long now and we'd lost
icon_lol.gif We still win it if he does…just need a couple more plays to do so.

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



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Quote: Jukesays "More plays because it would have e
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Jonh, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However one thing is missing from your argument. You think we may have scored if they had kicked long. That's hypothesis. We did score when they kicked short. That's fact. By virtue of that single difference it was the wrong play. The facts say it was.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Jonh, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However one thing is missing from your argument. You think we may have scored if they had kicked long. That's hypothesis. We did score when they kicked short. That's fact. By virtue of that single difference it was the wrong play. The facts say it was.'"


The point being made is Sneyd getting the blame for making the play.

It was in my opinion very good and clever play from Sneyd made in an attempt to close the game out.

The issue wasn’t Sneyds play it was the chasers.

I believe the the best chance of Salford closing that game at that moment in the game was for them to get the ball back in that situation and I think it’s a play that is successful 7/8 times out of 10.

From a Salford point of view all the difficult bits were executed correctly and the simplest element of the entire play was where it fell down.

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I am glad we won this amount of scrutiny on 1 play in a game we won,just think if we had lost.

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Quote: jonh "The point being made is Sneyd getting the blame for making the play.

It was in my opinion very good and clever play from Sneyd made in an attempt to close the game out.

The issue wasn’t Sneyds play it was the chasers.

I believe the the best chance of Salford closing that game at that moment in the game was for them to get the ball back in that situation and I think it’s a play that is successful 7/8 times out of 10.

From a Salford point of view all the difficult bits were executed correctly and the simplest element of the entire play was where it fell down.'"

I understand the points you're trying to make but history shows it was the wrong play and Sneyd chose that play. It doesn't matter that it may have worked if x, y or z had been different. They weren't. The play failed ergo it was the wrong one.

I understand also that Sneyd executed the kick well but that was only one cog in a machine. Let me put it this way. If you got in a car where the wheels could fall off and the wheels do indeed fall off, are you at fault for driving the car or is not your fault because you actually drove the car well and, had the wheels not fallen off, everything would have been ok?

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Quote: Phuzzy "I understand the points you're trying to make but history shows it was the wrong play and Sneyd chose that play. It doesn't matter that it may have worked if x, y or z had been different. They weren't. The play failed ergo it was the wrong one.

I understand also that Sneyd executed the kick well but that was only one cog in a machine. Let me put it this way. If you got in a car where the wheels could fall off and the wheels do indeed fall off, are you at fault for driving the car or is not your fault because you actually drove the car well and, had the wheels not fallen off, everything would have been ok?'"


Stop it Phuzzy,just stop it now.Jonh will come back with another analogy and explanation and another question of lets say "if it was a hire car it could mean the hire company was at fault as it was a dodgy vehicle" etc,etc,etc icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Phuzzy "I understand the points you're trying to make but history shows it was the wrong play and Sneyd chose that play. It doesn't matter that it may have worked if x, y or z had been different. They weren't. The play failed ergo it was the wrong one.

I understand also that Sneyd executed the kick well but that was only one cog in a machine. Let me put it this way. If you got in a car where the wheels could fall off and the wheels do indeed fall off, are you at fault for driving the car or is not your fault because you actually drove the car well and, had the wheels not fallen off, everything would have been ok?'"


I appreciate the sentient and I see the point of view.

I’m convinced it was the right play.

Put it this way, and obviously we can only speculate because we will never know, but if they go long and we score, by the above logic going long becomes the wrong play.

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Quote: jonh "I appreciate the sentient and I see the point of view.

I’m convinced it was the right play.

Put it this way, and obviously we can only speculate because we will never know, but if they go long and we score, by the above logic going long becomes the wrong play.'"

And if my auntie had balls etc...

You can equally say if they'd gone long and we hadn't scored it was the right play. There's only one thing we know for sure and that's going short was the wrong play. Definitely. No need for what ifs.

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Quote: Phuzzy "And if my auntie had balls etc...

You can equally say if they'd gone long and we hadn't scored it was the right play. There's only one thing we know for sure and that's going short was the wrong play. Definitely. No need for what ifs.'"


Listening to the NRL 'experts the easiest place to defend ìs ur own 10 so I get why he did it. Well never know if we'd have scored if he'd gone long

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It was the wrong play as they lost,if it was the right play they would have won (maybe).
Now surely that is that !

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