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| Quote wiganstripleL="wiganstripleL"i recon we'l pretty much fill the away end.always enjoy going to widnes and hopefully it will be a decent game!'"
Welcome mate, ashame we cant play you a couple of times a season.  Hope you do bring alot, and maybe see you all in the social club bar.Hopefully by 2012 it be more regular. |
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"Why ???
Because I stated the truth - That Lezignan REFUSED to play?
That's how it is.
They could have sent anyone over, to stand by their commitment, but chose not to.
Like I said, if the situation was caused externally (e.g All the flights were cancelled at such short notice that they had no option), then fine, rearrange it.
However, EVERY other team managed to sort itself out (full- or part-time made no difference to anyone else), whereas Lezignan took a HUGE gamble that didn't pay off.
As a result, they should forfeit.'"
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Lezignan please.
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| Quote AJ="AJ"So the circumstances that meant they couldn't make it are irrelevant?'"
Yes - If the circumstances are self-imposed.
In this case, Lezignan refused to make alternative arrangements to circumvent a rpoblem that was all but guaranteed to happen.
In the case of Wigan, they had committed to the Challenge Cup and then SUBSEQUENTLY arranged to take part in a separate, non-British event that meant that they made themselves unavailable to play.
In that case, either you send an alternate team or you forfeit.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Lezignan please.'"
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"Why ???
Because I stated the truth - That Lezignan REFUSED to play?
That's how it is.
They could have sent anyone over, to stand by their commitment, but chose not to.
Like I said, if the situation was caused externally (e.g All the flights were cancelled at such short notice that they had no option), then fine, rearrange it.
However, EVERY other team managed to sort itself out (full- or part-time made no difference to anyone else), whereas Lezignan took a HUGE gamble that didn't pay off.
As a result, they should forfeit.'"
Who else were in a similar situation?
They couldn't make it due to work commitments, then I expect the short time they had to secure a coach made it impossible.
Salford went on a 27hr coach trip, and they are a full time professional outfit.
Leigh, managed to secure a bus and make it.
Toulouse play in the UK anyway, im not sure of their player status, but they must have understanding jobs to say the least.
But hell, lets kick them out. That makes sense when a natural disaster is causing chaos to the country/continent as a whole. |
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| Quote OFFTHECUFF="OFFTHECUFF"No widnes please
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Lezignan is a morning's drive. Widnes can wait till you get into SL |
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"Yes - If the circumstances are self-imposed.
In this case, Lezignan refused to make alternative arrangements to circumvent a rpoblem that was all but guaranteed to happen.
In the case of Wigan, they had committed to the Challenge Cup and then SUBSEQUENTLY arranged to take part in a separate, non-British event that meant that they made themselves unavailable to play.
In that case, either you send an alternate team or you forfeit.
Simple'"
Yes, you are.
Quote Pie EyedThe Challenge Cup fourth-round tie between Widnes Vikings and Lezignan was postponed after the French club's flight to England was cancelled because of the volcanic ash cloud that has shut down air travel in Britain.
Lezignan were due to fly by Ryanair on Saturday morning for the tie, which was scheduled to be played at Halton Stadium at 6.00pm.
However the airline cancelled all flights until Monday and attempts to sub-charter a flight to take the team to England have proved unsuccessful.'"
Taken from Sporting Life. There flight with RyanAir was cancelled and they couldnt secure a charter flight. Given they were flying on the Saturday morning, how else would you like them to get here? Carrier pigeon? Walk? Teleport?
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From the people who brought you Cruncher vs Wigan/Leeds Andy...
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| Quote AJ="AJ"Who else were in a similar situation?
They couldn't make it due to work commitments, then I expect the short time they had to secure a coach made it impossible.
Salford went on a 27hr coach trip, and they are a full time professional outfit.
Leigh, managed to secure a bus and make it.
Toulouse play in the UK anyway, im not sure of their player status, but they must have understanding jobs to say the least.
But hell, lets kick them out. That makes sense when a natural disaster is causing chaos to the country/continent as a whole.'"
Questions:
1. Did they or did they not KNOW that it was highly likely that they would be unable to travel by plane?
2. Were there alternate modes of transport available (train/coach/ferry/etc.)
If the answer to both of the above is YES, yet the team refused to take advantage of the alternatives in 2. to circumvent the probability of the situation in 1. then that should not be seen as an "unfortunate set of circumstance", but as a REFUSAL TO PLAY.
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| Quote Pie Eyed="Pie Eyed"Questions:
1. Did they or did they not KNOW that it was highly likely that they would be unable to travel by plane?
2. Were there alternate modes of transport available (train/coach/ferry/etc.)
If the answer to both of the above is YES, yet the team refused to take advantage of the alternatives in 2. to circumvent the probability of the situation in 1. then that should not be seen as an "unfortunate set of circumstance", but as a REFUSAL TO PLAY.
If you refuse to take part in the competition, then you forfeit the right to demand to be allowed a do-over.'"
1. Quite possibly.
2. Quite possibly.
Now, if they were a team of FULL TIME PRO'S playing in a FULL TIME COMPETITION, then I might be inclined to agree. HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT & THEY DON'T. Thus, cannot be treated as such.
1. Did they inform the RFL & Widnes they wouldnt be able to make the game
2. If the answer to question 1 is yes, then it CANNOT be classed as a refusal to play.
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