Totally agree with you. Equally I'm sure you'll agree that he (Hock) is an idiot, deserves the ban (rules are rules and it sends a stark warning to others) and will hopefully clean his act up.

At Least Hock will finish the season on a HIGH lol !!!!!!!!

AAARRGGHHHAHHAHAHAH! So funny!

We haven't heard that one yet!

ARRHAHAHA!

As a serving soldier, we have a zero tolerance drugs policy and are regularly and randomly tested but the amount failing is considerably higher than it ever used to be, i think this is down to the young people joining up today who have been brought up with drugs readily available in society,

But don’t get me wrong any one taking drugs should be punished, in the army its instant dismissal in most cases and some it’s down to the commanding officers discretion (dependent on what drugs he failed for)

As for drugs in sport, e.g. Hock he is 25 and will still have a career after his ban, but the question i ask myself is cocaine a performance enhancing drug?? My personal opinion is I think not, and does it deserve a 2 year ban?


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The drug (or I think its constituents) is on the list of substances that the WADA people set out as prohibited. The RFL like other sports sign up to use that list and the associated penalties, testing regime and so on.

So everybody knows where they stand.

And since they do, why is there any debate to be had about whether it deserves to be treated differently to performance enhancing drugs?

It's on the list, don't take it and you won't get banned. It is very simple.

Dave

If you go back a few pages you will see that joke from an 8 year old Warrington fan which just goes to show how f#ckin slow and stupid you actually are !

Thats rich coming from a pie eater HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!

Why do you not eat pies in St helens you t£t ??

tend not to

i find this useful in these situations

It's a shame for the lad, but at the end of the day it is self-made. In reality this should be dealt with primarily by the law as coke is illegal. However, Wigan can't be seen to tolerate such behaviour in their playing staff. It looks bad on the club if they stick by him. It is an interesting comparison to make with cases like Cockayne, and Pryce/Reardon though.

I rember back when Denis Betts was breaking into the first team he said that be was sacrificing his 20's to set himself up for life.

I don't if it's a generational thing or the same rewards are not there but we need people like him back in the club with that hard nosed professionalism that seems to be missing at the moment.

I can't imagine Denis pi$$ing or snorting his career away in the same way

I remember that about Betts. Wasn't he teetotal? I am pretty sure he stuck to the OJ at least in his first stint at the club as I remember him discussing this in an interview. I always admired his professionalism for doing that.

And I totally agree we need hard nosed professionalism that seems to be missing at the moment.

Mind you whenever someone says on here they saw some Wigan player out totally rat faced we get the usual "the club can't control what they do outside of hours" or "they have a life as well" sort of excuses coming forwards.

The club could not control what Bets did either but he made the choice to look after his body because he had the common sense to realise his playing career was a short one. I wonder how many of our players have taken a leaf out of Betts book? Hock obviously not but the rest?

Dave

nowt wrong with a player getting ratted, even during the season (as long as its not a couple of days before a game) as alcohol doesnt tend to affect you for long after you have consumed it.

however, drugs are a different story and any professional should know better regardless of wether they are affected by them or not come game time