12 x his monthly wages At Wigan

so, theoretically, we could be paying him £20k for the rest of the year and then upping his wages to compensate for the next 3 years? or is that against the spirit of the cap?

I was under the impression Vievers was simply the assistant coach, if he is the defensive coach he needs sacking asap, and it also raises a question of what exactly does Noble do if it is the case? Is he solely responsible for our free flowing attacking play?

i work in accounts and im not even going to try and get my head around it. why the hell the RFL cant just check the total amount paid to players over the course of a 12 month period and then check whether its over the £1.6M is beyond me!

bloody rfl, pi$$ up and brewery spring to mind

May be wrong but i think it is to ensure the cap is live and we do not see a situation where Wigan were punished retrospectivley after any real damage has been done.

im sure it is but whats the point? all the live cap does it copy the NRL. if a team is over the cap at the end of the year, strip them of all points, fine them and have done with it

I'm speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the transfer fee was actually a payoff to Mathers but was being paid to him under warrington salary cap as they may have more room to play with

has anyone got any idea who the other two clubs in super league are that the tax man is chasing. i know warrington have been named but who are the other two. with all the rumours regarding saints tax dodging over the years my bet would be them but just wondered if anyone had heard owt.

We were mentioned in the guardian article and i've heard Hull fc mentioned aswell,but until anything is confirmed by either the clubs,the rfl or HMRC we'll just have to wait and see.

Wigan are coming together as a team now, a few adjustments and we'd be right up there.

Richards (NEW A TRUE FB, don't care what anyone says but Pat will do for now)
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Tomkins (NEW 7)
ENFORCER/CAPT NEW PROP Tommy NEW IMPACT PROP
Hock Lockers
J Tomkins
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Feka, Riddell Prescott Farrell

SELL

Bailey
Smith
Phelps
Fielden (when poss)
Coley
Hansen
O Carroll

Goulding-Loan
Flanny-Loan
Mossop-Loan.

I can justify this entire moment.

Nuff Said

id like to see

1 pat richards
2 karl pryce
3 martin gleeson
4 george carmont
5 shaun ainscough
6 sam tomkins
7 matty orford
8 luke baily
9 tommy
10 feka
11 gareth hock
12 sean oloughlin
13 joel tomkins

14 lee mossop
15 mark riddell
16 harrison hanson
17 stu fielden

I think last night showed the need for the two types of players you mention.

Tommy was excellent again last night in the loose play. He has a knack of bouncing/stepping/ ducking off players and tackles then accelerating away into open space. His kicking was also good in spurts as well but I still don’t think it’s consistently good enough for him to be our first go to option on the last tackle. Tommy is defo playing his way into a new deal and I really wanna hear some news about him signing soon.

But we are still missing a HB(6 or 7) who can unlock a defence with a neat miss pass wide or short pop pass to a forward running on an angle. We also need a HB who can get the ball out when it’s on to our excellent centres and give them space and time to work their magic. Our HB were good last night but I never thought they were going to unlock the Saints defence with a killer ball. We also put ourselves under pressure by bombing kicks straight to the Saints back three towards the end of the game meaning they made easy yards.

Fielden was again poor last night and although Coley played well we are still crying out for a rough prop who will not only make the hards yards but he’ll steady the ship and win the arm wrestle for us. Imagine what Feka could do for Leeds if he came on after Peacock and Leuleui had softened teams up for him. A house prop would add so much to our game and bring the likes of Prescott and Feka up to another level

After all the signings made since IL bought the club we still need at least one prop now and another if/when Coley goes.
Last night only Feka & Fielden broke tackles. Coley & Prescott didn't break a tackle all night. Neither do they run with the power and aggression needed from today's prop forward.
The problem has been there before and since IL arrived and is still there now. At his first FF IL said "Why do we need props we've got eight".
He knows now why we need them and have for some years.
Until we get two far more powerful props than we have now into our front row the longer it's going to be before we can compete with the best.
What we also need desperately is a top class experienced play maker half back. We continually have teams on their try line and unless it's a kick struggle to break them down.

My ideal squad would be - Richards, Roberts, Gleeson, Carmont, Ainscough, New half back and Sam T. Fielden, Riddell, New Prop, Hock, Joel T, O'Loughlin, Feka, New Prop, Tommy (as a 9) Hansen.

Sam T is struggling at times to make play but it's difficult for him as most weeks he's playing behind a beaten pack. Put a new playmaker HB with Sam T behind a pack that can win most of not all games and the whole team could step up a gear and step up their performances. The wins would certainly follow!