Yeah and I've noticed that you guys are playing a lot like Saints of 2022 this year in the couple of games I have watched, at least in terms of gameplan. I was a bit worried that we didn't have the energy to do it this year, but the Wire game has given me a lot more confidence now that we will be able to do it when it matters. I thought we were 2nd best against you in most areas, but the fact that we managed to stick in that game despite that was a cause for optimism as well. I do think this year has the potential to be the most interesting set of play offs for a number of years. Especially if Salford and Hull KR can keep up their form. Don't see any of those two getting to a grand final but as a wildcard, I could quite easily see them getting a big scalp on their way. It already looks unlikely we will finish in the top 2 due to the ground we've lost and the bodies we still have out, so we may well have to play one of them, then travel to a you/wire/catalan in a semi before getting to a possible final! Definitely more jeopardy than we've been in for any of the past 4 years

There is a long way to go yet, much will change.

I think the game plan in the games against Saints and Wire was quite conservative and all based around the effort areas, a bit like Saints of the Woolf era but maybe due to necessity as much as anything. When you’ve got a forward at 6, you’re not going to be too expansive and Wigan knew both clubs would watch French like a hawk. I’m looking forward to Field being back and seeing how we play with him and French at 1 and 6. If they keep that same intensity in the forwards and defensively, they’ll give themselves every chance of success. Saints have woke anybody up who thought they were on the slide though and they’ll still take some beating.

I see the lame have miraculously recovered for the Catalans game

Well that interview looked like a coach who has no idea what to do. I remember a similar look on Lam’s face. Wellens looked worried

Some videos doing the rounds of fighting between the two sets of fans. Embarrassing

I think the bull was the star of the show last night, we should get him signed him, big unit!

Can't believe Super Jack didn't bring it down him being the greatest player in the world an all

A wild bull on the loose and Saints have their away kit on.

Life’s not fair!

You win

Roby all being well breaks the Saints record number of appearances tomorrow. His 532nd game.

I wonder if anyone else in SL will ever break the SL record?

It always makes me laugh when the Aussies make a huge deal of one of theirs playing 200 games for example. Ben Hunt is on 350 I think now and they have never stopped talking about it. Granted the NRL is a tougher comp but still.....

I didn't expect us to fall off a cliff this year but next year with Roby retiring is a huge loss. This year looks like its been one year too many for him but its his leadership and influence we'll miss more than anything, similar to SOL with Wigan.

Since 1994 we've had 2 St Helens lads at No.9 for 29 years. Its going to be weird not seeing him play.

What a player he’s been. There isn’t anybody across the whole game who would say a bad word about him. He’s the sort of character that will be sat in his local when he’s 60 years old and people will tell the youngsters that he is one of the best players of all time and they won’t believe it. The very best players roll with the punches that injuries and age being and adapt their game. He has been one of those and you can have nothing but respect for him.

Super leagues GOAT by a mile IMO.

Sadly leaves a massive hole in the overall game and happily an even bigger one in the Saints team