See my last post not blaming him due to our forwards but his choice of nothing kick

The worrying thing is that Saints aren’t even in second gear yet. We are clueless beyond belief.

It’s embarrassing watching Hastings.

Smith once again anonymous, so the ball has to go to Hastings on every attacking play. The defence can load up on Hastings as we literally have no other pivot that creates anything or puts their hand up to take some of that responsibility.

React to being kicked in the head, yellow. No reaction, that would have been nothing as play on was allowed.

Kick someone in the head "petulant" or not. It's not a yellow, the card there is red.

Disagree that’s not a red.

We really are in trouble as a sport if that is a red. It was gamesmanship.

Bentley is living rent free in Batemans head and totally dominating a once formidable player but since his return to Wigan is a shadow of his former self.

We are now reaping the reward of the recruiting of Shaun Wanes one dimensional robots at junior level . Saints youngsters look far more athletic than ours , as do Leeds kids . I believe Warrington have some good ones coming through as well. Our whole scouting and recruiting system needs a massive overhaul

This might not be the worst Wigan team ever but it is heading that way.

We look like a team that has never been coached - no organisation, no structure and some of the dumbest rugby I have seen in a long time. Even our best players (Bateman, Farrell, Gildart etc) are going backwards and looking worse each week, the drop off ball to Faz is so predicatable and so easy to defend. The kikcing game is truly woeful hoof it down field or hoof it up in the air with no pressure.

.Absolutely clueless and zero entertainment value. It is a good thing Saints are not playing well as they should be way ahead by now.

The kicking for 2 said it all really - even the players have no fiath in their ability to score - unless it comes from a Saints mistake.

If Saints do not run up a decent score then Leeds will next game out.

Every team we play can literally put all 13 defenders on the side of the pitch Hastings is on and we would still go to him and expect him to create.

Smith may be a kid but he needs to offer way more than he currently is.

It’s embarrassing how lacking in any clue we are and how certain players are willing to just be passengers on a ship that is clearly sinking.

We are so fu*king poor its embarrassing

Kendall has lost the game (not that he had it at any point).

Christ mate i know he’s been poor but that’s a bit much.

Behave.

We offer no physical threat, we have no speed, one half back, no props. The demise of our team is quite astonishing. I have never seen a Wigan team with such an incredible lack of threat

Don’t look like scoring. Discipline with and without the ball is poor. Barely any go forward. Isa giving penalties away for fun, Bateman an affinity for the yellow card, Partington can’t keep hold of the ball.

And Lam reckoned it was an arm wrestle? I can’t wait for his post match interview. This game has been an absolute car crash from us.

Maybe, but I'm sick of it.

Bentley has been poop housing all game (especially in the 2nd half) and nothing is done. JB pushes someone and gets a yellow.

All of them are the lowest of the low.