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Quote: Egg Chasing "They had all left by the end of 92 though, so certainly the Grand Slam will have been won with a full time side. Granted by then we had won 2 WCCs, 7 cups and 6 leagues.'"


This same argument appears on this board every five or six year, whenever Saints start winning things again and the latest bunch of Red V newcomers come out of hiding and try to tell the world that basically everything Wigan have ever won was a hoax. And it's always the same outcome: they get reminded that from around 86 to 92, when Wigan's super-powered team was already destroying everything in its path, we were no more fully professional than anyone else in the league, and that from 92 onwards we weren't the only club in the process of fully professionalising.

I reckon we had this 'unfair advantage' they are still crying about for maybe one season, two at the most.

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Quote: Cruncher "This same argument appears on this board every five or six year, whenever Saints start winning things again and the latest bunch of red v newcomers come out of hiding and try to tell the world us that basically everything Wigan have ever won was a hoax. And it's always the same outcome

They flew players back for the cup final in 89. Worked out well for them.

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Lockers has been the best Wigan player in the last 40 years

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Quote: Lenners "Lockers has been the best Wigan player in the last 40 years'"


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Quote: Pieman "

Let History judge

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: Lenners "Let History judge'"


It has, he's retired, and as much as I love him he isn't.

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Quote: Jukesays "It has, he's retired, and as much as I love him he isn't.'"


He isn't even our best 13 in the SL era.

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And again....i love him

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Lenners "Lockers has been the best Wigan player in the last 40 years'"

I'm a fan, but no.

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Quote: Lenners "Lockers has been the best Wigan player in the last 40 years'"

Christ on a bike, He was good but not that good

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Best player for Wigan is an unanswerable question IMHO. It’s subjective as opposed to objective. I personally prefer players who do the tough stuff, run hard, tackle harder and never back down so my top 10 would primarily consist of those type players.

Lockers would be in there without a shadow of a doubt. Tomkins probably makes top 20 for me. And that’s not to say he wasn’t a good player, on his day he was exceptional but like I said I’m a glutton for the old fashioned tough rugby league player.

Neil Cowie, Skerrett, Edwards, Betts, Farrell (Andy and Liam), Micky Mac, Terry Newton, O’Connor, Smith, Pongia, Fielden are players who initially spring to mind for me. If I think about backs I’d put Barrett, Richards, Carmont, Offiah, Robinson, Connolly, Radlinski, Lam, Gregory in.

I don’t think I could nail my top 3 down in all honesty

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I thought Dermott was a great player for us as was Graham West as was Ian Potter as was Darren Goulding-the list goes on ,all underrated but a integral part of our team.

Lockers a fantastic player but not the best over 40yrs,that is some call. Still Hanley !!

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Easier to do a 17 IMO. You can't really compare props with wingers etc.

For me since 01

1. Radlinski
2. Charnley
3. Renouf
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. S.Tomkins
7. Barrett
8. O'Connor
9. Newton
10. A.Farrell
11. Bateman
12. L.Farrell
13. O'Loughlin

14. Flower
15. Leuluai
16. Hock
17. Hoffman

I've gone for players overall time with us rather than just thinking about their peak - hence no Fielden or Roberts who were great at their peak for us but not in an average day. Special mentions to French, Dallas, Connolly and Williams who I'm sure others would have in.

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Quote: Grimmy "Easier to do a 17 IMO. You can't really compare props with wingers etc.

For me since 01

1. Radlinski
2. Charnley
3. Renouf
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. S.Tomkins
7. Barrett
8. O'Connor
9. Newton
10. A.Farrell
11. Bateman
12. L.Farrell
13. O'Loughlin

14. Flower
15. Leuluai
16. Hock
17. Hoffman

I've gone for players overall time with us rather than just thinking about their peak - hence no Fielden or Roberts who were great at their peak for us but not in an average day. Special mentions to French, Dallas, Connolly and Williams who I'm sure others would have in.'"


Very subjective but would have to challenge you on a couple of those icon_wink.gif

Ben Flower over Craig Smith?
Charnley over Dallas?
Wouldn't be able to look past a Lam/Barrett halfback pairing either.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: MadDogg "Very subjective but would have to challenge you on a couple of those I think Flower was criminally underrated with us to be honest, his 2013 play off performances at loose when Lockers was out injured stand out in particular. Great in the 2014 play offs too but obviously let himself down in the final. He also had a succession of poor prop partners throughout his time with us which didn't help IMO. I think he would be held in a higher esteem if he had an O'Connor or a Pongia to help out rather than Dudson/Crosby/Lauaki/Pettybourne etc.

Charnley over Dallas - it was a close run thing. I looked at it that they are both primarily known for their attacking abilities and Charnley scored a lot more than Dallas, including five tries in a game on at least one occasion I recall. Dallas was faster but Charnley's strength let him finish tries Dallas couldn't have scored, and helps in the boring work coming out of yardage too. Admittedly I might be biased by Charnley playing in a team that won trophies.

Lam a casualty of preferring a defensively sound full back (Radlinski) and obviously you can't leave Tomkins out. That 02 Challenge Cup final performance makes me really want Rads in there. I've not seen one player have such a big impact on a final before, especially when his team were underdogs.

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