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| Quote: Jukesays "Straight question
Straight answer required.
Do you think Wigan should promote any kind of date such as someone earlier suggested, remembrance day, armed forces day, st George's day, mothers day etc?'"
Yes, all of the dates you mention are aimed at giving back thanks.
LGBTQ/Pride is aimed at promoting sexuality choice and demanding equal rights which they already have in this country. There are already laws in place that make it illegal to discriminate against a person based on their sexuality.
BLM is an extremist organisation thats aims include abolishing the Police and bringing down capitalism. Its a politically motivated group that cloaks itself behind equal rights for black people. Many of the of the original BLM members in the US have left the organisation for this very reason. You cant seriously be comparing BLM to remembrance day? They are the far left equivalent of the EDL!
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| Do we want to save our club?
Been a supporter for 65 years its in my blood.
Personally I would not want a refund on my Season ticket but understand that a lot of supporters would.
Could a Just giving site for Wigan RL be set up?
Would Wigan Supporters cough up even if its only a pound ?
Would the supporters come back to Wigan like we did in 2006 to support the team.
What we need is to unite behind the Wigan RL and not let it go into admin.
IL has pumped his own money into the club lets get behind him without him taking over from DW we would not have a club at all.
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Yes, all of the dates you mention are aimed at giving back thanks.
LGBTQ/Pride is aimed at promoting sexuality choice and demanding equal rights which they already have in this country. There are already laws in place that make it illegal to discriminate against a person based on their sexuality.
BLM is an extremist organisation thats aims include abolishing the Police and bringing down capitalism. Its a politically motivated group that cloaks itself behind equal rights for black people. Many of the of the original BLM members in the US have left the organisation for this very reason. You cant seriously be comparing BLM to remembrance day? They are the far left equivalent of the EDL!'"
Sorry everyone, I cant let this go
1/ LGBTQ/PRODE is is not "aimed at promoting sexuality choice", sexuality is not a choice, it is to promote equality for people of different sexual orientations, without their campaigning over 20/30/40/50 years they may not have that equality IN LAW they have now
2/ There are laws already in place, not for everything but because of their campaigning most of them, whether individuals obey those laws and discriminate is another matter. The organisation is there to let others who may feel isolated or victimised or whatever know that they arent alone and they should be allowed to be themselves on this matter without discrimination or fear of violence.
3/ BLM is an extremist organisation, Really? I suppose if you either a/ believe the right wing message then fair enough b/identify that a small minority who attach themselves to a group for ulterior motives actually speak for the while organisation then fair enough.
Without being any kind of expert in BLM as an organisation (because it really isnt a centrally organised group, it is a movement of people with the same ideology and 1 common goal using a name to unite) my understanding is that the main organisers are still with the movement and havent disassociated themselves from the movement, if I'm wrong I'm wrong.
You comparing the vast majority of protestors, and not just them but the average person who supports BLM to the EDL is ridiculous. I dont even know where to start.
Using a link to a BLM UK which as already pointed could be anyone up to anything and yes, even for bad reasons, is like me stating that the EDL or any of its England football shirt wearing crew is a spokesperson for the 52% who voted Brexit
As for comparing BLM to Remembrance day, when did I do that?
I asked if you thought that it was ok to have a remembrance day/armed forces day seeing as you dont want political movements to be associated with sport.
I promise to not bring it up if you dont as I am sure 99% of people reading our little interaction are probably bored out of their skin.
You keep your money in your pocket, you keep picking faults wherever and whenever you can with the club.
I'm just heartened that 95% of what I have seen and heard and what other friends and family have told me that theyve seen from people is in support of the club and offering to help in which ever way they can at these times, and not trying to score cheap points.
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| Quote: Jukesays " Sorry everyone, I cant let this go
1/ LGBTQ/PRODE is is not "aimed at promoting sexuality choice", sexuality is not a choice, it is to promote equality for people of different sexual orientations, without their campaigning over 20/30/40/50 years they may not have that equality IN LAW they have now '"
Just by saying that people cannot choose their sexuality is discriminating in itself. You just admitted they have equality in law so they have the exact equal rights and protections as everybody else in this country.
Quote: Jukesays "2/ There are laws already in place, not for everything but because of their campaigning most of them, whether individuals obey those laws and discriminate is another matter. The organisation is there to let others who may feel isolated or victimised or whatever know that they arent alone and they should be allowed to be themselves on this matter without discrimination or fear of violence. '"
Thats a Police matter not a RL matter. Do you honestly think the small minority that still discriminate against LGBTQ are going to change because a RL club took up the cause and promoted it? Its like the club holding an anti-theft day and expecting thieves to stop thieving. Regardless, the LGBTQ/Pride issue was not really the focus of my original post, i simply gave my opinion because somebody brought in a direct reply to me and my opinion still stands, i dont think theres any need for a RL club to take it up.
Quote: Jukesays "3/ BLM is an extremist organisation, Really? I suppose if you either a/ believe the right wing message then fair enough b/identify that a small minority who attach themselves to a group for ulterior motives actually speak for the while organisation then fair enough.
Without being any kind of expert in BLM as an organisation (because it really isnt a centrally organised group, it is a movement of people with the same ideology and 1 common goal using a name to unite) my understanding is that the main organisers are still with the movement and havent disassociated themselves from the movement, if I'm wrong I'm wrong.
You comparing the vast majority of protestors, and not just them but the average person who supports BLM to the EDL is ridiculous. I dont even know where to start.
Using a link to a BLM UK which as already pointed could be anyone up to anything and yes, even for bad reasons, is like me stating that the EDL or any of its England football shirt wearing crew is a spokesperson for the 52% who voted Brexit
As for comparing BLM to Remembrance day, when did I do that?
I asked if you thought that it was ok to have a remembrance day/armed forces day seeing as you dont want political movements to be associated with sport. '"
You dont think calling for the Police to be abolished is extreme? Only right wingers would find abolishing the Police extreme? Are you for real? I have given you the screenshot of the GoFundMe page of the UK arm of BLM and you still refuse to believe it saying it could be anyone. It has near a million quid in its purse and you think it could be 'anyone up to anything'? I did not ever compare the vast majority of protestors to the EDL. I said that BLM as an organisation is the extreme left equivalent of the EDL, they are both equally extreme but on opposire ends of the spectrum. Remembrance day and armed forces day are not political movements, they are to show respect for those that died defending this country and those that are currently serving the country. I dont think you'll find either event promoting any kind of extreme views.
Quote: Jukesays "I promise to not bring it up if you dont as I am sure 99% of people reading our little interaction are probably bored out of their skin.
You keep your money in your pocket, you keep picking faults wherever and whenever you can with the club.
I'm just heartened that 95% of what I have seen and heard and what other friends and family have told me that theyve seen from people is in support of the club and offering to help in which ever way they can at these times, and not trying to score cheap points. '" Very well, as ive said countless times, everybody is free to make their own choices on how they spend their money and i am free to make mine and have done based on the club showing support for a movement that wants to abolish the Police and bring about a Marxist revolution in the UK.
Over and out.
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| These different days we have generally invrease the number of bums on seats. I believe that the Catalans ge scheduled for March was gonna see a major increase in numbers. So lets be realistic if it attracts an extra 4k people and only 200 of them decide to keep coming back therefore its well worth the exercise. I am pretty sure IFL is not seeking to change the world but indeed is just doing his best to bump the crowds up due to some members of this choosing not to spend there money going to games anymore. Or beter still cancelling a world club challenge. At the end of the day we should all want the best for the club which has and still is been a massive oart in my life and you know what if we play in multi coloured socks or shirts and it benefits the club then you know what bring it on. Not sure the colours will suit my figure personally but hey ho if it works lets go. And finally i think the letter IFL sent out is brilliant and really meaningful. Well done Mr Lenaghan.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
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For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Spelling police, it's Lenagan.
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| It's typical of the way the clubs run to expect us to pay for something we don't get. It's like 2017 with that game in Oz that we paid for whether we went or not and that stupid game in London. If we didn't keep messing about like this we probably wouldn't need 500k a month to pay the bills. What are we paying bills on anyway, we don't even have a ground.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "It's typical of the way the clubs run to expect us to pay for something we don't get. It's like 2017 with that game in Oz that we paid for whether we went or not and that stupid game in London. If we didn't keep messing about like this we probably wouldn't need 500k a month to pay the bills. What are we paying bills on anyway, we don't even have a ground.
[size*Lights touch paper and casually walks away[/size'"
I enjoyed both those trips, thank you Mr. LENAGAN.
[sizeThat should stir the pot up a bit.[/size
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| Both games were very expensive mistakes and did nothing except to annoy the majority of their own supporters. It’s interesting that the chairman now wants season ticket holders to “share the burden” but he didn’t give a toss about them when he took the two games on the road.
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| Quote: Grimmy "I hereby pledge 50p split between Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ causes for every post Enforcer makes between now and Wigan's next Super League game. Your message has prompted me to sign up to Wigan TV just now too
30 posts so far Grimmy..... I hope you are saving your pocket money.
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| If Lenagan did not put 500k into the club they would be close to being shut down for good and that still could happen if the game does not start with crowds soon
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "30 posts so far Grimmy..... I hope you are saving your pocket money.'"
And yet Jukesays has managed to make more sense in one post than you have since you set up your profile. He clearly has more faith in you than I do because he's trying to reason with you. It would be just as good a use of his time to teach algebra to his goldfish.
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| Quote: Grimmy "And yet Jukesays has managed to make more sense in one post than you have since you set up your profile. He clearly has more faith in you than I do because he's trying to reason with you. It would be just as good a use of his time to teach algebra to his goldfish.'"
You sound agitated. Whats up, you'll not be able to buy that PS4 game you've been saving for?
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| Quote: hatty "Both games were very expensive mistakes and did nothing except to annoy the majority of their own supporters. It’s interesting that the chairman now wants season ticket holders to “share the burden” but he didn’t give a toss about them when he took the two games on the road.'"
Hard to disagree with you
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| It looks like some supporters are in a state of frustration judginging by some of the argumentative comments.
Calm down, things will be back to normal in due course!
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