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| Barrow kicked up a fuss saying we contacted their prop without us contacting them first.
Has this developed into anything or just gone quiet?
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| Michael Carter and Molly have confirmed on Twitter it’s a load of crap about Fifita, a Warrington troll started the rumour.
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| This may be radical thinking to some, but why don’t we judge our recruitment for 2019, when we know all the relevant information and facts of our completed 2019 squad, in, well 2019.
A couple of big name signings by others (although to be honest I’m not impressed by Lolohea) and our recruitment is being called useless, before we even split the 2018 league.
I’m not for one second saying our 2019 recruitment is fantastic nor am I saying it is useless as we just don’t know.
We have a rumours thread as a sticky, I’m somewhat confused as to why we even have this thread.
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| Quote: jonh "This may be radical thinking to some, but why don’t we judge our recruitment for 2019, when we know all the relevant information and facts of our completed 2019 squad, in, well 2019.
A couple of big name signings by others (although to be honest I’m not impressed by Lolohea) and our recruitment is being called useless, before we even split the 2018 league.
I’m not for one second saying our 2019 recruitment is fantastic nor am I saying it is useless as we just don’t know.
We have a rumours thread as a sticky, I’m somewhat confused as to why we even have this thread.'"
The only 'top' NRL player that is coming to SL next year is Austin, and even he has been out of favour this season even if he did have a great game last week.
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| Sounds like Hardaker has screwed up before he’s even played a game......
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Sounds like Hardaker has screwed up before he’s even played a game......'"
Care to elaborate?
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| Saw this on Cas forum
Here's the conspiracy theory:
Potential legal proceedings would be crippling.
Current deal with Wigan states if he breaks any of their stipulated clauses re conduct his contract is void.
He intentionally breaks them and is released to be picked up by Cas and therfore avoid having to pay out...
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Seems a bit far fetched to me
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| Quote: thepimp007 "Saw this on Cas forum
Here's the conspiracy theory
I no longer use Casforum, so not sure what’s said on there (usually tripe).
My understating is that he’s in trouble with the police after an incident in Chester.
To be honest, it’s no surprise. I’m shocked at the stuff he still puts on social media, off his face with his old so-called “mates”, getting smashed after England games, wondering around city centres at 3.00am with his mates all obviously hammered. He’s stupid enough to put stuff like this in his Instagram (at least it saves someone else filming it).
Whatever his brings to a team on the pitch, it’s really not worth the screw up he will inevitabely make (as both us and Leeds have found). The only glimmer is if Wigan can get him away from his idiotic mates.
I also believe Cas are perusing Hardaker for the financial loss incurred as a result of his breach of contract. He had the opportunity to come back to Cas and avoid this, but chose to take more money. Unfortunately, most of the extra money he will earn will be owed to Cas if the legal action is successful. I’m not sure he will be deliberately trying out of his Wigan contract.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I no longer use Casforum, so not sure what’s said on there (usually tripe).
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Agreed. Since we signed Zak, you mainly use this one.
You just need to get over the fact that he's gone.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I also believe Cas are perusing Hardaker for the financial loss incurred as a result of his breach of contract. He had the opportunity to come back to Cas and avoid this, but chose to take more money. Unfortunately, most of the extra money he will earn will be owed to Cas if the legal action is successful. I’m not sure he will be deliberately trying out of his Wigan contract.'"
I dont understand this. Why didn't Cas just delay their decision on Hardaker until the WADA statement had been made? If anyone is at fault here it's Cas.
It's a bit like a poker player whinging after folding early despite them having a winning hand. Sorry......
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| Quote: Cruncher "Agreed. Since we signed Zak, you mainly use this one.
You just need to get over the fact that he's gone.'"
It’s a shame we lost his playing ability.
However, as you’ll see from my posts from the point he was suspended, I never wanted him back. He’s not worth the hassle he brings, despite his on-field ability.
I’ve not posted here for a long time on the topic. I only visited to see if there was anything about his recent indiscretion.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "It’s a shame we lost his playing ability.
However, as you’ll see from my posts from the point he was suspended, I never wanted him back. He’s not worth the hassle he brings, despite his on-field ability.
I’ve not posted here for a long time on the topic. I only visited to see if there was anything about his recent indiscretion.'"
The only bad news about Hardaker on here is the bad news you relentlessly seek to bring us.
But ultimately, so what?
If ZH has broken any of the stipulations in his new contract, he’s gone – at no cost to us. The main ones who’ll suffer are him and you lot, because he won’t be able to afford whatever remuneration you’ve convinced yourself you’re owed.
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| Quote: MattyB "I dont understand this. Why didn't Cas just delay their decision on Hardaker until the WADA statement had been made? If anyone is at fault here it's Cas.
It's a bit like a poker player whinging after folding early despite them having a winning hand. Sorry......'"
Not really. Harkaker breached his contract . As his employer, Cas are perfectly entitled to dismiss him and Perdue him for any financial loss. It’s basic employment law.
Had Cas not dismissed him, we would have been paying his wages during his ban, which the club weren’t prepared to do (quite rightly in my opinion). The CEO at the time just wouldn’t entertain paying someone to have a year off as a reward for taking a banned substance.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I’m shocked at the stuff he still puts on social media, off his face with his old so-called “mates”, getting smashed after England games, wondering around city centres at 3.00am with his mates all obviously hammered. He’s stupid enough to put stuff like this in his Instagram (at least it saves someone else filming it).'"
Just reading this again, I don't see the issue above.
Unless he's committed a crime like assault or behaved in a manner like Joel Tomkins then 'getting smashed' after an England match is what hundreds of thousands of young lads of a similar age did.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Not really. Harkaker breached his contract . As his employer, Cas are perfectly entitled to dismiss him and Perdue him for any financial loss. It’s basic employment law.
Had Cas not dismissed him, we would have been paying his wages during his ban, which the club weren’t prepared to do (quite rightly in my opinion). The CEO at the time just wouldn’t entertain paying someone to have a year off as a reward for taking a banned substance.'"
Then do what other clubs have done in the past, stick him on the transfer list for a fee.
Players have always breached contracts (some go back to Aus due to homesickness), some bet against their own clubs, some get banned for failing drug tests. Massive can of worms (in all sports) if clubs start suing players, is there a precedent for this?
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