Another newcomer since his team started winning.

Well, they've long defined themselves by how much they hate Wigan. Even when they had the Long / Sculthorpe team and we were total pants, they celebrated our defeats equally to their own wins. The difference now is, because their success has dried up, they tend to do it all on their own site ... rather than come over here to bore us with it.

As an additional thought on the Hull idiots who've started appearing on here, it may just be that it's down to success always attracting ragtag and bobtail. I agree with an earlier poster that a couple of Cup wins is not a big thing these days, with Grand Finals and WCCs also to play for. But FC have had no period of genuine success since long before social media. Perhaps it's inevitable that we're suddenly seeing some gobby fools in their colours. It's probably not exclusively a Hull thing, either. Could easily be the case that we'd see the same from other clubs who'd previously been started of success in the internet era.

Sorry Cruncher but you've got it wrong again as I'm not a Hull supporter, I'm a fan of a lower league team but I do like the way Hull play the game

I don't want to sound too bitter about this. But to me, their entire game plan revolves around having massive forwards. A half back that can stick up a massive high bomb to their huge wingers. That's pretty much it.

TBF it's probably more of a gamelan than we've had lately.

I don't doubt it, and in a way it's kind of like Wane's ideal (if only we had a half who could kick in open play). But it's fairly simplistic. I feel that if our wingers were bigger (better at catching bombs) then we wouldn't really be troubled by Hull. I would say Cas or Leeds style of offloads we usually find harder to defend against.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

They have a plan. You might not like their plan, or think it is the most sophisticated plan in the world, but at least, they have a plan...






... you forgot, a hooker who can do 80 minutes...

There are aspects of our attack that are very good and do score us a lot of points. We have next to no kicking game though (barring some of George's try line dinks which are some of the best you'll see,) putting up some of the worst bombs from the worst positions with the worst chases I've ever seen, along with zero hope of a 40/20. If we had half their gameplan we'd have double the tries.

And everyone else bar Cas. Incredible stat, that. Especially when like you say everyone has bashed our attack this year.

Edit - Salford have more also which is surprising given they've been on holiday for the past 2 months.

finally people are starting to give their different opinions on the game and the teams,lets be honest it would be a bit boring if we all agreed with each other and by the way I still think we would do wigan in the grand final but that's just my opinion

Man of steel!!

You absolutely could. It would be an intriguing final because I think we could turn you lot over as well and get some proper revenge for Wembley.

I really don't fancy coming up against Cas at all but Leeds or Hull would be a great, close game I reckon.