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Don't gloat folks



bask, it make you feel...warmer

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Not gloating but the biggest myths in RL are Joel Tomkins and Bateman. both non existent tonight yet again.

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Quote: LFC Saint "Not gloating but the biggest myths in RL are Joel Tomkins and Bateman. both non existent tonight yet again.'"



With all due respect mate, you're talking rubbish. If you're going to use ONE game to justify your comments, at least make it one where it wasn't 12 v13 and preferably not one half a dozen games back into Tomkins return. Why not try the 2011 Challenge cup final for Tomkins perhaps and maybe the whole of last season for Bateman when he virtually carried the Bradford pack single handedly and won young player of the year. In fact take practically any game for us this season too. I'd start with Good Friday where he consistently ripped you a new one playing out of position!

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Quote: Phuzzy "With all due respect mate, you're talking rubbish. If you're going to use ONE game to justify your comments, at least make it one where it wasn't 12 v13 and preferably not one half a dozen games back into Tomkins return. Why not try the 2011 Challenge cup final for Tomkins perhaps and maybe the whole of last season for Bateman when he virtually carried the Bradford pack single handedly and won young player of the year. In fact take practically any game for us this season too. I'd start with Good Friday where he consistently ripped you a new one playing out of position!'"

Game, set and match.

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Quote: Phuzzy "With all due respect mate, you're talking rubbish. If you're going to use ONE game to justify your comments, at least make it one where it wasn't 12 v13 and preferably[size not one half a dozen games back into Tomkins return[/size. Why not try the 2011 Challenge cup final for Tomkins perhaps and maybe the whole of last season for Bateman when he virtually carried the Bradford pack single handedly and won young player of the year. In fact take practically any game for us this season too. I'd start with Good Friday where he consistently ripped you a new one playing out of position!'"



So you agree he should not be in the England squad ?

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Quote: Wire Yed "Don't gloat folks



bask, it make you feel...warmer'"


How would you know? You never get to do either.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "Let's look at the evidence. We have video evidence of wane encouraging his players to ''create mayhem'' and bash the hell out of the opposition, just for a friendly. We have a hateful narrative from wane in the build up to the game.

Then within the first minutes of the gamewe have Flower hitting Hohaia off the ball, who funnily enough just happens to be saints only playmaker.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the atmosphere and/or mentality wane may (may not) have created in the build up contributed to flower's red mist, or that trying to get at Hohaia early was some part of the gameplan.'"


There is no "evidence". You can't seriously suggest a coach saying his team should "create mayhem" and "bash the hell out of the opposition" has anything to do with a player over-reacting to getting an elbow in the face.

The only game plan I saw was one from Brown of winding the Wigan players up from the off. It worked. Flower reacted and I am sure Hohaia has got a pat on the back for taking one for the team, as I said before.

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Quote: DaveO "There is no "evidence". You can't seriously suggest a coach saying his team should "create mayhem" and "bash the hell out of the opposition" has anything to do with a player over-reacting to getting an elbow in the face.

The only game plan I saw was one from Brown of winding the Wigan players up from the off. It worked. Flower reacted and I am sure Hohaia has got a pat on the back for taking one for the team, as I said before.'"



Check the "Flower" thread for the video evidence. In addition to "create mayhem" and "bash the hell out of the opposition" there is "knock people out" (said whilst punching his own hand to demonstrate) and "be reckless".

I don't think Wane wanted it to be so obvious, but his message is very clear and has been seen through his players all year.

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Shaun Wane has to take some responsibility for all week trying to build it up into a 'hatred' game.

Yes we know he intensely dislikes us but broadcasting it to all and sundry before every derby and the GF did our sport and his team no favours.

Love to be fly on the wall wherever he is right now! Cats, walls, doors kicked etc icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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You get nothing! You lose! Good day, Sir!

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Quote: DaveO "There is no "evidence". You can't seriously suggest a coach saying his team should "create mayhem" and "bash the hell out of the opposition" has anything to do with a player over-reacting to getting an elbow in the face.

The only game plan I saw was one from Brown of winding the Wigan players up from the off. It worked. Flower reacted and I am sure Hohaia has got a pat on the back for taking one for the team, as I said before.'"


You can't have it both ways DaveO. Saying that there are no tactics involved from a Wigan point of view and Wane has nothing to do with it and then say that Brown had a game plan of winding the Wigan players up - your "evidence" argument goes both ways.

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Hohaia tried to escort Flower off the ball, he got a shove in back, retaliated, then got knocked out & his nose broke, does that shove from each player deserve what Flower did? He is a big house! Hitting a halfback, I would have liked to see him try doing that to any players his own size, you deserved to lose the GF, it's a team sport & one of the team let the others down, win as a team lose as a team.

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What Wigan must now realise is that the vast majority of opposition fans dislike the way you play the game and have done for number of years. Winning a trophy only means something when the opposition accepts that you've won it on merit ... unlike last year's GF.

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Quote: silver2 "What Wigan must now realise is that the vast majority of opposition fans dislike the way you play the game and have done for number of years. Winning a trophy only means something when the opposition accepts that you've won it on merit ... unlike last year's GF.'"
So are we supposed to conform to a panel of opposition fans views? our 12 men played better than the stains 13 men, how does that fit into your agenda?

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