I'll apologize for my part in this but this hasn't been one way

Damn that appley bridge curfew lol

G'night junior

I'm sure this topic was about Hansen!

Superfans and Notsosuperfans are allowed to comment on him.

I was as disappointed as anyone to see HH go, players do leave though for various reasons.
I thought his replacement was to be Clubb but he has proved to be far better at prop. His eventual replacement is Bateman who by any measure has been superb.
Whether Bateman proves to be as good or better than HH remains to be seen.
As far as I'm concerned the club have brought in two excellent players in Clubb and Bateman whomever was supposed to replace HH.

No it's called having a life.

Again answer the question why does going to every game make you better than the rest?

The title of the site is "fans forum". Fan is short for fanatical. There are different ways to be fanatical about the club. But I would have thought that actually going to the game would be the most important one. (Of course not everyone can get to the game due to work commitments, family commitments etc - but we make our choices, agin that's part of being fanatical surely?)

Does that make you a "better" fan? - Of course it does. Why do people get so defensive about this? There are certain people on here whose posts are always interesting and who post with authority. It is clear that not only do they go to the game, but that they actually watch when they are there!

I've seen people posting that such and such a player isn't playing well or isn't good enough. How can you comment if you don't watch the team regularly?

The other week I posted that I thought that our display at Hull was outstanding and that it was more a case of Wigan being good than Hull being bad. Did anyone agree? The silence was deafening. (Actually on reflection - It was probably just me being boring!)

There is no need for terms like "superfan". "Fan" will do. Wear it if it fits.

Probably because it's wrong and such a simplistic way to look at things. Just because this is a fans forum doesn't mean you have to have a season ticket to know anything about Rugby League, the club or the players which was what the other poster was essentially saying.

What being a fans forum means is that when you post something other people might disagree with what you've said and if you care about that you should probably be ready to back it up with something relevant. I don't know if some people live inside a little bubble where they're never wrong and they take themselves very seriously but every now and then you get someone like KAII who blows a gasket because someone has the temerity to disagree with something they've said. On another thread he commented on Luke Walsh, a saints fan told him he was wrong. He didn't say 'oh sorry, i don't have a season ticket, i bow to you're superior knowledge of st helens' he called them an inbred. This has just been deflected, it's not about season tickets, it's about peoples ability to discuss.

On what you've said there are different ways to watch the games. They all get put on WiganTV for one thing. Not going to the games doesn't necessarily affect whether you know anything. Based on the evidence in this thread having a season ticket might actually be detrimental. To bring up having a season ticket this year when discussing the merits of Harrison Hansen who'd played for us for 10 years is especially irrelevant.

Is it any wonder that people who come on a forum to discuss rugby might not have season tickets. I think it's likely that a lot of fans who don't live in Wigan might come on here because there aren't people to discuss rugby with where they live and because they don't live locally, won't have season tickets. Not to say that's the only reason not to have a season ticket.

Having said ll that, i went to a many finals as i did home games last year so god, or Kaii, knows what's my opinion worth.

I understand your points. I suppose what gets to people like me who follow the team home and away is when people comment on a player's worth (for example Jordan James who got his own thread) when they haven't actually seen him play. Of course people are entitled to an opinion, it's a free country after all. It's just that if you don't watch the team play - then an opinion on whether a player is any good - is worthless. Or would you disagree?

Of course anyone can watch a lot of tv, and I think roughly half of our games go out live. It's not really the same. For any of you who have nothing to do on Saturday how about going to the game? It's dead cheap. Don't the lads deserve a little support?

I go to nearly every Wigan game, and am involved in plenty rugby besides that, but I don't get how my opinion is more valid that someone who saw the game on TV. To be honest I often find I pick up more watching the replay on tv than I did at the game, because you get a better view of the action and the benefit of replays.

As for cost, it’s all relative. I’m lucky enough to be in a position where I can comfortably manage the disposable income and free time to go to matches every week. If I had a lower paid job, kids, lived further away etc I wouldn’t be able to afford the luxury. That wouldn't make me any less of a fan.

more into the american smooth myself

Me too, more lifts.