making massive amounts of ground is not the be all and end all of rugby league. It's pointless making making 80m every set of 6 from your own try line if you fail to threaten the in goal at the other end. Roby's figures look good for the total meters he makes as he carries the ball more than any other player but not even in the top 50 players when you look at the average per carry. As mentioned before He carries the ball most for saints as he is Plan A in attacking options without a plan B. how many more tries could Saints have scored if the ball had been spread wide from a quick PTB instead of a DH scoot...???
A good pack going forward and winning the tackle in collision and a quick PTB will give the hooker more time to way up options and either scoot or distribute the ball.
Macca at the moment chooses the right option to distribute and put others into space which ultimately creates more scoring chances.

Do Aus and NZ allow the opposition DH to scoot from the PTB, or do they control the ruck area ...?? They don't have weak packs so what kind of hooker will be more effective against an organised defence...??

I wish we had Martin Dermot in this current Wigan team, he'd love working with these forwards, now we has a clever hooker who had zero pace, just a great rugby brain. Micky Mac looks similar in some ways and I hope he can become something like what Dermot was, he was like an extra half back involved in every play.

Quote: sally cinnamon "Remember a few years ago there was that talk that Super League clubs should be paid a fee or given salary cap exemption for each player they produce that is in the England squad (or GB as it was then). From what I remember Leeds and Wigan were quite keen on it (for obvious reasons). How political would it have made the squad selection now though....if Wigan were losing out on money for McIlorum not being in the squad etc.'" Erm, I'd [iimagine[/i that it would be about as political as it is now, given the Elite Representative Squad Dispensation Allowance provided for in the 2012 Salary Cap Regulations. Unless, of course it became overwhelmingly obvious that Wigan where the biggest beneficiaries of this allowance; in which case it would automatically become incredibly political; and the latest RL Fans cause célèbre with 50 page threads on the VT and other such nonsense. www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/ ... on%20E.pdf Section 5.13 for anyone interested.

Quote: sally cinnamon "Remember a few years ago there was that talk that Super League clubs should be paid a fee or given salary cap exemption for each player they produce that is in the England squad (or GB as it was then). From what I remember Leeds and Wigan were quite keen on it (for obvious reasons). How political would it have made the squad selection now though....if Wigan were losing out on money for McIlorum not being in the squad etc.'" Erm, I'd [iimagine[/i that it would be about as political as it is now, given the Elite Representative Squad Dispensation Allowance provided for in the 2012 Salary Cap Regulations. Unless, of course it became overwhelmingly obvious that Wigan where the biggest beneficiaries of this allowance; in which case it would automatically become incredibly political; and the latest RL Fans cause célèbre with 50 page threads on the VT and other such nonsense. www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/ ... on%20E.pdf Section 5.13 for anyone interested.

Not read through the whole eight pages so this may have been mentioned previously.
Goulding has been wearing strapping to his thigh for a number of matches now and this suggests that he is carrying some kind of strain.
It maybe that SW has asked for him to be rested (yes, after asking for his inclusion) as there is another Exiles game when he could be selected and played.