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| Quote: MattyB "Not a problem with that at all. How do the stewards choose which to eject and which ones not to? There must have been a few thousand singing that song yesterday?'"
Its difficult I agree but they may decide to select a few to set an example.
Most of the best songs do not contain any offensive language and so I maintain that creating new ones with swear words is not needed especially when it offends some people. The 5 in a row song would still be as effective without the f word.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "I have to say I agree with the original post. I don't like the F word in our songs when my 7 year old is there. He's never heard it from me and neither has my wife etc. it's about personal values and mine are such that I don't swear in front of kids and women. I'm not saying my values ar right or anybody else's are wrong but that's the way I am and I hope my son grows up with the same level of respect for others.'"
dont sing it then...simple
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| Quote: Pieman "dont sing it then...simple'"
I don't, simple!
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| just read most of this..........and agree with the OP.
its just ignorance to Eff and Blind in front of women and kids, let alone chant.
ok..your in a big group, and the stewards seem powerless,
yesterday i was in a different stand to the chanters and was a bit shocked tbh.
now if i hear someone Effing and blinding in front of women and my kids , i pull them up...............so if anyone on here is planning a repeat at Magic weekend, be warned..im probably going to be in the same sector , so dont think of doing it...............i'l politely ask the nearest person i hear chanting it, but i wont ask twice.
*be nice..change the words*
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| Quote: MattyB "Not a problem with that at all. How do the stewards choose which to eject and which ones not to? There must have been a few thousand singing that song yesterday?'"
the crowd was only a few "thousand"...few dozen is closer.....easy for the stewards to find...but stewards are part timers who cba causing a rumpus...so they ignore it.
answer?....employ doormen type stewards who WILL go in and enforce the stadium rules
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| Quote: Katrina "I never swear infront of my parents or family, and I certainly don't walk round the streets swearing at people. Sometimes I swear when watching football and rugby, sometimes I swear when I am talking with friends, and I do join in with the chants at the rugby which have swear words in. But by your logic, this means I don't have respect for others. '"
Well if you're swearing in front of other people and their children it's hardly an indication that you DO respect them is it? Tell me, why don't you swear in front of your own parents or swear at people in the street? More importantly, why doesn't the same reasoning apply to spectators and their children and families?
Quote: Katrina "People pay their money to go to the match, and can say what they like. Obviously I don't agree with racism or violence. But it's freedom of speech at the end of the day, and it's just a different choice of language.'"
Freedom of speech applies to swearing at people in the street or your own parents, but by your own admission you don't do that, and I imagine that if you have kids of your own you don't swear at them either, despite it "just being a different choice of words."
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Well if you're swearing in front of other people and their children it's hardly an indication that you DO respect them is it? Tell me, why don't you swear in front of your own parents or swear at people in the street? More importantly, why doesn't the same reasoning apply to spectators and their children and families?
Freedom of speech applies to swearing at people in the street or your own parents, but by your own admission you don't do that, and I imagine that if you have kids of your own you don't swear at them either, despite it "just being a different choice of words."'"
Because the rugby is predominantly adults, emotions run high, people tend to swear when they get frustrated. Nobody is swearing at anyone in particular. Players on the pitch and in the dug-outs swear, you can see and hear this clearly. The coaches swear. Should they be ejected and banned for being 'disrespectful' too? Swearing happens. It always has and always will. You expect to hear it in certain places, a sporting arena is one of them. Kids are allowed in pubs, does this mean that people shouldn't be allowed to swear or show drunken behaviour in pubs just because kids are there? Everybody expects to hear swearing at a sports event, and I really don't think any of you are really all that surprised. If you think it is so inappropriate and want to protect your children from any bad language, maybe you should find a different activity for your children that doesn't involve being near any other people. I actually find it laughable that you think your kids are never going to hear swearwords. As for not swearing infront of women... Please get with the times.
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| Quote: Katrina "Because the rugby is predominantly adults, emotions run high, people tend to swear when they get frustrated. Nobody is swearing at anyone in particular. Players on the pitch and in the dug-outs swear, you can see and hear this clearly. The coaches swear. Should they be ejected and banned for being 'disrespectful' too? Swearing happens. It always has and always will. You expect to hear it in certain places, a sporting arena is one of them. Kids are allowed in pubs, does this mean that people shouldn't be allowed to swear or show drunken behaviour in pubs just because kids are there? Everybody expects to hear swearing at a sports event, and I really don't think any of you are really all that surprised. If you think it is so inappropriate and want to protect your children from any bad language, maybe you should find a different activity for your children that doesn't involve being near any other people. I actually find it laughable that you think your kids are never going to hear swearwords. As for not swearing infront of women... Please get with the times.'"
There's a massive difference between someone shouting an obscenity out of frustration with the ref/players and a group of 100+ people singing a song containing obscenities though.
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| All the time I have been watching Wigan, there have always been chants with swearwords in. I thinkImust have been about 10 when I first heard the 'w*nky Warrington' one. At first I was shocked as this was only the second game I had ever been to. I joined in thinking they said lanky, I remember thinking, 'why are they lanky???'. When I realised what they were actually saying, I thought it was funny. The more I went to the rugby I realised there were more chants with swearwords in and realised it was just part of the spectator part of the game. I didn't join in with them till I got a bit older as I knew they were swearwords and just sang it missing the swearing bit. Every single football team and every single rugby team chant songs with the occasional swearword. As I said previously, it's always happened.
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| Quote: Katrina "All the time I have been watching Wigan, there have always been chants with swearwords in. I thinkImust have been about 10 when I first heard the 'w*nky Warrington' one. At first I was shocked as this was only the second game I had ever been to. I joined in thinking they said lanky, I remember thinking, 'why are they lanky???'. When I realised what they were actually saying, I thought it was funny. The more I went to the rugby I realised there were more chants with swearwords in and realised it was just part of the spectator part of the game. I didn't join in with them till I got a bit older as I knew they were swearwords and just sang it missing the swearing bit. Every single football team and every single rugby team chant songs with the occasional swearword. As I said previously, it's always happened.'"
I hope you weren't singing the W*anky Warrington song but leaving the swearing out!
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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "I hope you weren't singing the W*anky Warrington song but leaving the swearing out!
I just sang 'lanky' or 'anky'
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| Quote: wigan pie man "the crowd was only a few "thousand"...few dozen is closer.....easy for the stewards to find...but stewards are part timers who cba causing a rumpus...so they ignore it.
answer?....employ doormen type stewards who WILL go in and enforce the stadium rules'"
There where definitly a large number singing that song yesterday, certainly more than a few dozen. And the same goes for when it was sung at Langtree park.
As far as employing doormen instead of stewards goes, That is not something I would like to see at all. And would be way over the top. If we had a problem with violence/racism then yeh, but for chanting a swear word in a song? really?
You don't need swearing for a good atmosphere and It doesn't bother me either way but it's nothing new. Whoever made the song up could have used a lot of different words... but theres nothing stopping people who don't like the word so much from singing it and for instance saying "bottled" instead. If it bothers that many people then don't sing the swear word and it will die out......
The players can quite often be seen swearing on the camera's, aswell as the coaches. So maybe people should have a word with all the players in the sport who have ever sworn on the pitch, and tell them what a disgusting dispicable example they are setting to?......
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| oh my god ...........................
we are a precious little bunch arent we
i am stunned this thread is at 8 or 9 pages
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| Quote: wiganstu "oh my god ...........................
we are a precious little bunch arent we
i am stunned this thread is at 8 or 9 pages'"
I honestly don't know what is wrong with people. We have just beaten Saint's in the CC quarter final, ending their run of succsessive semi finals, And the first thing people do is moan about a swear word in a song.
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| The use of Foul language at Wigan RL has been around for as long as I've been going to watch them (45 years!)
I agree that such language shouldn't be used where Women and Children are present, and when I took my (then) young kids to Central Park, if I was uncomfortable with what I was hearing around me, then I used to move to another part of the ground.
The problem with the DW, being all-seater and designated seats, that isn't possible.
Perhaps the introduction of a "Family Enclosure block" could be considered as an option next season?
In my opinion, the noise of chanting obsenities from a distance is much more tolerable then that same thing being yelled from within a few feet of your lug-hole.
My 2 cents worth
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