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Quote: Rogues Gallery "There's also the possibility of giving Matty Russell a few games at fullback next year. He has electric pace and beats a man as easily as Sam Tomkins.

Then just behind them straight from the U16's is stand off Ryan Hampshire who has scored five tries and sixteen goals in his six appearances for the U18's late in the season.'"

I hope we see Russell get some game time next year, alongside King hopefully.

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What is Ryan King like defensively? I've heard he has pace to burn so attacking wise he isn't a problem. Next season I'd be tempted to try Sam in the halves for a few games, with either putting Pat or Amos at FB and bringing one of the youngsters on the wing.

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Quote: Bill Sonny "We are Wigan, we can do better than Amos Roberts at 1, 'needs must' isn't a term we should be using, that's a term for the wakefields/harlequins of this world'"


It is but you tell me where the recruitment is coming from to mean we do not have do assemble a team from the current squad, in particular replace Deacon. As I keep saying I am basing my suggestion on the players we know we have available, not some pie in the sky notion of who we may sign or an unrealistic expectation that an U20's player will be able to handle the 6 job full time.

People are quick to criticise the suggestions but offer no realistic alternative.

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Forgot about Goulding too! What's happening with him?

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Quote: DaveO "It is but you tell me where the recruitment is coming from to mean we do not have do assemble a team from the current squad, in particular replace Deacon. As I keep saying I am basing my suggestion on the players we know we have available, not some pie in the sky notion of who we may sign or an unrealistic expectation that an U20's player will be able to handle the 6 job full time.

People are quick to criticise the suggestions but offer no realistic alternative.'"

No, people are quick to [idisagree[/i with you (not criticise as you state) nor give unrealisitic opinions - yours is not the only opinion on here you know - others may well be just as correct.

Anyway so far [irealisitic[/i options have included,



Deacon staying another year and sharing 6 with a younger player (at present Deacon's status for next year is unknown).Deacon may even do 1 more year as full time 6 - this is still to be confirmed one way or another.

Putting a young player in at 6 and using other players to cover if this does not work out (lets see Lockers, Tommy have both played 6 and moving them there is no more unlikely than moving Sam to 6 as it still leaves a hole to be filled elsewhere) especially given that there has been no indication from the club/coaches that Sam is likely to be moved back to 6. Roberts' future at the club looks uncertain given that he seems to be very much out of favour so putting him back at 1 may, or may not, be unrealistic. Then again Roberts did pay 6 in the U20s quite a lot - perhaps he may be an option, it would seem strange to play him there unless he was being considered for the role.

It may be that Sam will switch between 1 and 6 and this will allow game time for a younger player(Roberts,Marsh,Goulding and Richards can cover FB and Wing) so there are options all over.


Signing a player, as we know from experience the IFL likes to play things very quietly - so there is every possibility of bringing someone (not necessarily a world class player but an experienced player perhaps) into the club.Realistic? Time will tell. Certainly rumours have been around of trying to sign Chase - so it could be this is a position being looked at.

Having Finch at 7 and Tommy at 9 adds a lot of experience around the team in and around the half back position so carrying an inexperienced player is not that big a risk - especially if there is backup.

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TODD CARNEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
The sydney roosters have released todd carney a year early from his contract ???????? apparantly the catalans wanted him but didnt have room under their salary cap......so wigan have signed him as a replacement for deakin..watch this space !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote: exiled Warrior "
Anyway so far [irealisitic[/i options have included,

Deacon staying another year and sharing 6 with a younger player (at present Deacon's status for next year is unknown).Deacon may even do 1 more year as full time 6 - this is still to be confirmed one way or another.'"


Unrealistic. Deacon can't do another season.

Quote: exiled Warrior "Putting a young player in at 6 and using other players to cover if this does not work out (lets see Lockers, Tommy have both played 6 and moving them there is no more unlikely than moving Sam to 6 as it still leaves a hole to be filled elsewhere) especially given that there has been no indication from the club/coaches that Sam is likely to be moved back to 6. Roberts' future at the club looks uncertain given that he seems to be very much out of favour so putting him back at 1 may, or may not, be unrealistic. Then again Roberts did pay 6 in the U20s quite a lot - perhaps he may be an option, it would seem strange to play him there unless he was being considered for the role. '"


Lockers or Tommy to 6 is also unrealistic far more so than Sam. Lockers is not a 6 and this is always a compromise. Tommy to 6 means McIllorum has to do the full 80 at hooker which this season has shown is unrealistic.

Quote: exiled Warrior "It may be that Sam will switch between 1 and 6 and this will allow game time for a younger player(Roberts,Marsh,Goulding and Richards can cover FB and Wing) so there are options all over'"


Playing Sam at 6 is a good idea icon_sad.gif

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Quote: NORTON18WARRIORFAN "TODD CARNEY !!!!!!!!!!!!
The sydney roosters have released todd carney a year early from his contract ???????? apparantly the catalans wanted him but didnt have room under their salary cap......so wigan have signed him as a replacement for deakin..watch this space !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"


Expected to join either NQ Cowboys or Catalans next year.

No way he'll get a UK visa, due to previous convictions.

I don't personally believe that the RFL should allow him to register for Catalans either, as this basically gives an unfair advantage to them over the British teams, just because the French government doesn't care what kind of convicts they allow in to their country.

Not that the RFL will stop them, as this would require 2 things:
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Quote: Pie Eyed "Expected to join either NQ Cowboys or Catalans next year.

No way he'll get a UK visa, due to previous convictions.

I don't personally believe that the RFL should allow him to register for Catalans either, as this basically gives an unfair advantage to them over the British teams, just because the French government doesn't care what kind of convicts they allow in to their country.

Not that the RFL will stop them, as this would require 2 things

Lets be honest if we wanted him enough we could get him a visa icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DaveO "
We'll just have to agree to disagree - time will tell!

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I don't get the hype about Rangi Chase. A lot of hype for an average player playing in a position where there isn't an abundance of quality throughout the league. For me Sam stays at 1. FInch at 7 and tommy at 9 then 6 is shared by 2 of the younger lads. We did it with Sam before, Saints did it with Eastmond & Lomax, Leeds did it with..... well... We might just unveil another star if we give them a chance.

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Quote: bigtruck "I don't get the hype about Rangi Chase. A lot of hype for an average player playing in a position where there isn't an abundance of quality throughout the league. For me Sam stays at 1. FInch at 7 and tommy at 9 then 6 is shared by 2 of the younger lads. We did it with Sam before, Saints did it with Eastmond & Lomax, Leeds did it with..... well... We might just unveil another star if we give them a chance.'"


where is this abundance of quality throughout the league at 6 then? danny mcguire? kevin brown?

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Quote: Bill Sonny "where is this abundance of quality throughout the league at 6 then? danny mcguire? kevin brown?

Re-read his post!

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