I still think Tomkins a better half back than Myler but at the end of the day, you're a wire fan and I'm a wigan fan we are hardly going to ever agree on that are we?! haha.

And I agree with the potential for Eastmond what an idiot he was throwing that away he could have been something truly special if his mind had been in it. I dont actually think its his body I think it was a fear thing he felt the slightest niggle and wouldnt play for weeks I reckon. I cant see someone his age being so succeptible to injury without anything severe to cause it (a la Dean Ashton in football) but we will see when he goes to union. Hes still a loss to RL whatever anyone says but at least we still have tomkins, myler and widdop for England and maybe ratchford in a couple years.

But I bet we can both agree on one thing? Those fans quoted by Rogues are idiots.

Whether it be half back, fullback, whatever, Sam Tomkins is a far better rugby league player than Myler, end of debate.

Not least because, regardless of whether it involved a Wiganer or not, they were passing extremely early judgements on a self-evident immense talent. None of that lot could have felt anything less than utterly stupid once Rogues recollected those comments.

I don't recall ever saying any of that...

For what it's worth, I think Graham is the best prop forward in the competition and I'll be sorry to see him go to the NRL. Fielden at the moment on his day is just as good as Morley, although Morley is a hell of a lot more consistant. Go back a few years and everyone (even Saints fans - not saying you are one, just making a point) said he was the best front rower in the world. You don't become garbage that quickly.

I don't think anyone on this board with a modicum of sensibility about them will even for a second try to claim that Paul Deacon has pace or youth on his side. What he does have is a huge wealth of experience to bring to the team and pass on to the younger lads, so you're correct in your assumption that Lomax, and certainly Myler, would be kept out of the Wigan team by him. Showed enough pace to set up Gleeson's second try at Old Trafford in October, mind...

It's impossible to say for certain where Gaz Hock would be right now career-wise if he hadn't been an idiot two years ago. He certainly showed signs of having the potential to play in the NRL. However, I for one can't wait to see him back and see what he can do. Most sensible people aren't expecting him to set the world alight as soon as he's back, although we wouldn't complain.