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Quote: Odemwingie "He can still to a job at Origin level, he was just poor today.

Agreed Idris should play.'"


I think his best position is in the second row. His defence in the centres is somewhat lacking.

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Quote: Boris "I think his best position is in the second row. His defence in the centres is somewhat lacking.'"


are we still on about Gasnier? If so the above is madness.

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Quote: Pieman "are we still on about Gasnier? If so the above is madness.'"



I think it may be Idris he is talking about.

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Quote: Nick NJ "He'd do more than a job in SL, he's been the outstanding centre in the Nrl this year. He just had an average game today.'"


I said that tongue in cheek, in the vague hope that we somehow end up signing him for next year

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Boris "I think his best position is in the second row. His defence in the centres is somewhat lacking.'"


His positioning is poor but he can learn it. He will only ever be an average SR with some of the class they have in the NRL but he has the potential with his size and pace to be one of the very best centres.

Any poor defence he usually makes up with some big hits and big runs.

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On form this season, Gasnier is way ahead of Idris, when Idris breaks through it makes you sit up and take notice, but for all round work rate in defence and attack Gasnier is still the main man. If Ricky Stuart asked Cooper to play rep for the remainder of the series, I think the Marroons would have to up a gear.

Come on Billy and Darren!!!

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Quote: uglybug "On form this season, Gasnier is way ahead of Idris, when Idris breaks through it makes you sit up and take notice, but for all round work rate in defence and attack Gasnier is still the main man. If Ricky Stuart asked Cooper to play rep for the remainder of the series, I think the Marroons would have to up a gear.

Come on Billy and Darren!!!'"


Who would your drop for Cooper? I assume it won't be Gasnier and Jennings played really well I think. It's a depressing thought though. Gasnier, Jennings, Idris and Cooper would all walk into the England side, and in Maroon you've got the likes of Inglis, Hodges, Tonga and Nielsen. Embarrassment of riches doesn't quite cover it lol

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: dirtbag83 "Who would your drop for Cooper? I assume it won't be Gasnier and Jennings played really well I think. It's a depressing thought though. Gasnier, Jennings, Idris and Cooper would all walk into the England side, and in Maroon you've got the likes of Inglis, Hodges, Tonga and Nielsen. Embarrassment of riches doesn't quite cover it lol'"


There are players who will never get near Origin level who could make it in the England side. Especially in the outside backs.

For the blues you havn't even mentioned Hayne, Gidley, Lyon etc who have all played over the last few years.

There is not a single outside back who is English who could get near Origin and there is only a couple of overseason outside backs who could get in like Monaghan, Richards, King, and Hodgeson.

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Quote: Pieman "are we still on about Gasnier? If so the above is madness.'"


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Quote: Odemwingie "His positioning is poor but he can learn it. He will only ever be an average SR with some of the class they have in the NRL but he has the potential with his size and pace to be one of the very best centres.

Any poor defence he usually makes up with some big hits and big runs.'"


He is best learning this before getting put in a Blues jumper. And without a solid defence, any barnstorming runs are not going to make up for it.

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Quote: Boris "He is best learning this before getting put in a Blues jumper. And without a solid defence, any barnstorming runs are not going to make up for it.'"


He did alright in the Green n Gold the other week though.

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Gaz is overrated. Not looked the same player since returning from RU. Idris is far more dangerous, far harder to handle as he causes defended to work harder simply to contain him. I'd like to see Boyd trying to dump Idris on his .

Dugan is a quality 1, but Hayne is something else, a real game winner, he should feature.
QLD have a big advantage as Smith can do 80mins at 9, freeing up a bench spot as no interchange is needed.
Maybe NSW to start with Ennis and have Hayne on the bench. For me Hayne needs to play.

Gotta take my hat off to Matt Scott best prop in the game in my opinion.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "He did alright in the Green n Gold the other week though.'"


So? Watch him week in week out for the Dogs and you'll see he is suspect defending in the centres.

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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]:



If the blues want to do anything they need idris / cooper and hayne in the backs for the next games IMO.

Even with them lads in their still nowhere the quality of backs queensland have but need them lads in to even get close for me.

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Quote: gerr'emonside "If the blues want to do anything they need idris / cooper and hayne in the backs for the next games IMO.

Even with them lads in their still nowhere the quality of backs queensland have but need them lads in to even get close for me.'"


Hayne has been average all season.

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