We were rubbish. We gifted them the ball.

I'd agree with that assessment entirely. No complaints. Best team won. Well done Wire

Exactly. He threw his weight around and tried hard tonight for me - ran hard and put in several big shoulders on Wire's biggest men. I also watched him organising the lads around him a couple of times as well. He won't take a backward step either and goes looking for the opposition enforcer.

He's not a line-buster as Feka was, but gives a higher workrate and far more minutes coupled with a heavyweight impact. People make the mistake of expecting miracles from overseas men with reputations.

I agree except the Lima comments. I thought he ran the ball in hard and was the least of our problems. You do realise you have committed heresy by saying we were out coached? FWIW I agree, it was far too reminiscent of a Noble "no plan B" game for my liking.

Very harsh.....He just isn't the barnstorming prop that many rugby fans hope for when they sign a big(ish) name overseas player.

He'll do a job for you, he just won't pull up too many trees, or make too many headlines, doing so.

I just honestly don't remember seeing Lima break a tackle - when he caught the ball he was way too often stood still. He should be charging onto it Feka style. At this moment Wire's front row is hugely superior to ours.

His work rate was good. Wouldn't be surprised if he made the most yards.

So what if he didnt break the line. Did Prescott? Coley? Mossop? You are expecting too much of him.

Good win by wire. They defended very well and took their chances.

We gave up possession in our 20 too many times - credit to wire for putting the pressure on.

Our backline play didn't really link - again credit to wire for putting the pressure on.

Final point. I wonder what the rfl will do about westwood punching sam? I know that if it had been another player there would already be 10 pages on the subject......

Errm, there will be nothing done about Westwood. I mean come on, what a 'cheap shot' mixing it with the backs. That's why we need an enforcer like Westy.

I'm sure we will find out after the weekend if there is any case to answer.....the same day we find out what action will be taken against ST for trying to throw his weight around with a few punches on his first game back after suspension for getting involved where he didn't need to be.

As for the overall Wigan performance I think they shouldn't get to hung up about not playing well.......they simple were not allowed to play well by a well drilled, well planned and thoroughly committed Warrington team

He should have been in the bin, but Albert obviously decided against it. I'd be surprised if he gets suspended - even if it was 15 times worse than what Sam did against Hull.

I hope this game will also put to bed the rubbish in the media about wigans tackling technique - warrington outwrestled us completely last night.

No complaints at all about it but it woud be nice not to have a witch hunt for something that every other team does.

Charnley and Marsh are average at this stage. I can't see Marsh making it at SL level. With Richards & Gleeson it would have been different. At the moment you are competing due to superior coaching.

6 games in and everyone is shltting bricks !!!

You don't become a bad team in a week. Wire were far better in every department last night.....end of......will they carry it on through to Old Trafford ? Who knows !

Lets not forget that Brett Finch will improve 10 fold (not an excuse for last night by the way) and on NRL form will set SL on fire when he clicks....be patient - The future is VERY VERY BRIGHT !

I just hope Fielden returns with the same fire in his belly as last year because he was immense. Lima may not be playing at his best BUT again remember that he is playing more game time than Feka could even dream about. Once our forwards all return I think normal service will resume - Farrell was a huge loss last night which I think contributed to the lack of gusto in the forwards.

It is far to early in the season for the Wire fans to be getting excited and far to early for us to be letting our @rses twitch. Its not how you start its how you finish !

Chill and let the coaching staff do their job - They haven't let us down so far have they ?