Just seen the JT incident on Sky Sports and honestly don't see what all the fuss is about. His elbow hits the Hull players shoulder and then slides up towards his chin. All the force is taken out of it by the initial hit. IMO Gansen completely overreacted (as did Radford) and i reckon we've got a good chance if we appeal. I've seen a lot worse go unpuished.

Two today thanks.

You mean when Sam was in the air catching the ball and was tackled?
You manage to miss that Yeaman threw the 1st punch!
You also managed to not mention Manu and any of his incidents? Which I presume were all fair tackles in your eyes?

Joel was stupid (as were the rest of the side for letting him take the next ball up!) and I dont think you will find many Wigan fans who say otherwise! But if Joel and Yeaman had been binned problem would have been solved! Or if Ganson had got to grips with Manu the game might not have boiled over!

But we played crap and won, you played well and lost! I know who is the happier of the 2 teams this morning!

It has nothing to do with Bailey, you can't justify your players actions by trying to divert attention to another player. Also feel free to check his disciplinary record, you'll find he is no way as bad as people make out. BUT, I don't want to turn this into yet another debate about Bailey, there are enough of those. Fact is Tomkins cheated and got punished for it, not bringing back the biff in any way.

Course youre happier Closet man - you won!

We're gutted because we really should have won the game and it's not often i've come away from your place thinking that. Poor discipline at the play the balls cost us big time in the 2nd half.

Some of the moaning on here about our supposed tactics on Sam Tomkins is laughable though. Some of your lot would be better off at Cheltenham this week with these blinkers on. He's a fantastic player, unplayable at times but that doesnt mean he should recieve special treatment form the officials.

Yeaman threw the first punch.. everything that happened afterwards was instigated by the first action.

But you would have known that had you had gone. Now you're fecklessly defending Bailey who, as you quite rightly say, has nothing to do with anything on this matter.

Are you one of those types who enjoys a heated debate with a shadow?

Do you know what the word INTENT means?. He was leading with the elbow,he will get at least 3 games for that it was shocking.

Not saying Sam should recieve special treatment! But 2 of the challenges on him were poor and intended on causing injury! You seem to miss them out on your re cap of the game! The one before half time was a pen but was clumsy rather than intentional!
Joel was stupid fell for the winding up and is getting no sympathy from most Wigan fans! From what I can tell from your comments you feel the challenges on Tomkins were in the rules of the game! So will keep my eye out for you at Cheltenham and your black and white blinkers!

I blame our captain for Joels sending off he should have banished him to the back line not let him take the 1st ball after the fracas, that was very amateurish from him and our so called senior players!!

Joels a big boy - responsible for his own actions. Next you will be suggesting that our amateurish captain and childish senior players told him to do it

C'mon now people. Joel was simply displaying that well known Tomkins petulant trait, that seems to manifest itself when things are not going too well.

Add into the mix that Tomkins junior, despite being an annoying little scrote is ten times the RL player that Tomkins Senior will ever be, and I suspect sibling rivalry is at the root for many of his childish actions.It must be a bit wearing for Big Brother when all he hears are Sam this, and Sam that!

It'll be a shame if he misses the Headingley game in a couple of weeks. Having two Tomkins on the field doubles the opportunity to hand out some instant Karma to these two bad boys..... and that's worth the admission money on it's own!