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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "Bit in bold made me laugh
Richards is defo one of the best wingers in the game! But head and shoulders the best in the world no questions asked like that fella is claiming? I think that is wrong.
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| Its definately all based on opinion. I wouldnt personally say he is head and shoulders the best winger in the world, but he is probably one of the most complete players and certainly the most valuable winger in relation to Wigan. I would swap him for any other winger in the world currently maybe apart from Waine Pryce.
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| What amuses me most about threads like this is the undercurrent of Wigan hatred and British insecurity.
Some of the irrelevant points being made about Pat such as him not being in the Aussie team are unbelievable. Of course he isn't in the Aussie team. If Mal Meninga had come over to play for Wigan in the early '90s the Aussies would not have selected him for internationals, they don't pick any players playing overseas. Its difficult to have a discussion with people who appear to know very little about RL.
Here's some statistical evidence from the NRL - Pat scored 20 tries in an NRL season. You can't do that unless you are a world class player.
Pat is now being coached by one of the best coaches in the world and in one of the best backroom set ups in the world. The Maguire regime is absolutely top class - I await the supporters of other clubs arguing the contrary in the usual bitter, Wigan hating way but you would be better off accepting the reality that Wigan are back on top again and utilising your energies in urging your own clubs to try to catch us up.
Its no wonder that under Maguire an already world class player at his physical peak is in superb form.
So, I have suggested that an unquestionably world class player who is flourishing under the Maguire regime and was not only in the best form of his life but who continued at the same high standard throughout 2010 is the best player in the world in his position.
I'm not surprised that some people disagree with this statement but the reaction has been ridiculous. This is typical of the narrow minded, Wigan hating obsessives that infest this board, unfortunately.
And I still haven't seen any performances in the Four Nations by any winger that suggest I'm wrong. I await the final with interest. If someone is playing on the wing to a higher standard that Pat has throughout 2010 then they will be a truly great player.
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| Quote: St pete "Im not pointing the blame at joel if my post come across that way.
He just didn't seem the same player that plays for wigan every week. I agree, he had no of his aggressive style he has in super league, he loked a little in awe of the aussies.'"
But the same applies to pretty much the whole England team. The different class of opposition made all of them (except perhaps Roby) look worse than they do in club games.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "You make a fair point. Joel was awesome in sl but looked ineffective against the Aussies as he did against the kiwis. hasn't made the step up yet at this level.'"
Which does happen alot, some players can't seem to carry their club form to international games.
Sean long springs to mind, awesome player at saints but looks a little inside himself at international level.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Richards is defo one of the best wingers in the game! But head and shoulders the best in the world no questions asked like that fella is claiming? I think that is wrong.'"
Quote: sgtwilko "Sam Tomkins and Pat Richards have both been nominated for the International Player of the Year Award...
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| Quote: Geoff "rlhttps://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id'"
And [iNONE[/i of the players he mentioned were better than Pat have even been nominated
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| Sam had a poor game by his standards IMO. I think the Aussies did their homework as every time he got the ball he was immediately surrounded. Far too early to say he can’t cut it at this level, I’m sure he will, just give him time. What accentuates his poor game is the fact that everybody is expecting him to work wonders for us every time he gets the ball. He still has a lot to learn, (too greedy at times for me) but I’m sure he will learn it and continue to improve. From what I’ve heard he is grounded and has a good work ethic.
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| Quote: Geoff "rlhttps://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id'"
That whole list is a shambles!
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| Quote: RICHARD5LEGEND "And [iNONE[/i of the players he mentioned were better than Pat have even been nominated
I said Vatuvei, Uate, Gordon and Morris were all better than Richards. They're all on the list.
The fact that Chris Riley and Ryan Hall are nominated for International winger of the year tells you all you need to know about the presence of token SL players to bolster the numbers.
I mean seriously, Pat Richards the best winger in the world. He is a very consistent player, but best winger in the entire world? Give me a break.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "icon_lol.gif
The usual advice to people in a hole is to stop digging, but you keep at it, it's hilarious!
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| Quote: Deano G "The usual advice to people in a hole is to stop digging, but you keep at it, it's hilarious!'"
OK you're right, Ryan Hall is right up there in contention for international winger of the year
Paul Wellens is definitely going to run Billy Slater close too.
As for Danny Houghton - watch out Cam Smith.
The list is ridiculous.
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| Its actually pretty simple..
wigan fans wouldnt swap richards for any winger in the world..the rest of super would have richards before any of there current wingers in a heartbeat.
World class player
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I said Vatuvei, Uate, Gordon and Morris were all better than Richards. They're all on the list.
The fact that Chris Riley and Ryan Hall are nominated for International winger of the year tells you all you need to know about the presence of token SL players to bolster the numbers.
I mean seriously, Pat Richards the best winger in the world. He is a very consistent player, but best winger in the entire world? Give me a break.'"
I was just looking at 'Player of the year' Not the rest, which is a load of bollox. I mean, Richard Agar is nominated for coach of the year ffs!
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| Quote: RICHARD5LEGEND "I was just looking at 'Player of the year' Not the rest, which is a load of bollox. I mean, Richard Agar is nominated for coach of the year ffs!'"
Graham wasn't even the best player at Saints or Morley at Warrington - Roby and Westwood won player of the year.
Those lists have been put together by a crack addict.
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