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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "It's not either/or'"

I think for the disussion In Progress it was.

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Quote: sgtwilko "in no shape or form is winning a challenge cup a comfort if you lose the gf. '"


Of course it is!

Unless you're saying that if you can't win the GF you'd rather win nothing d040.gif

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Quote: FearTheVee "Of course it is!

Unless you're saying that if you can't win the GF you'd rather win nothing Didn't see any saints fans saying they wernt bothered they lost beacuse the cc was the trophy to win.

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No doubt if Leeds win on Saturday the Challenge Cup will suddenly become amazingly important to them icon_lol.gif

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Quote: sgtwilko "Didn't see any saints fans saying they wernt bothered they lost beacuse the cc was the trophy to win.'"


Which, of course, is an entirely different thing from saying "in no shape or form is winning a challenge cup a comfort if you lose the gf".

It quite clearly is.

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Quote: Mother Feka "No doubt if Leeds win on Saturday the Challenge Cup will suddenly become amazingly important to them
Maybe not to most Leeds fans , but to the players who have won numerous Grand finals and also won WCC medals it remains the one medal that completes the collection , and as such is by the clubs own admission a trophy they feel is important to win , sort of completes the set you know . icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif

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Quote: sgtwilko "I think for the discussion In Progress it was.'"


In your mind maybe, not in anyone else's.

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I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. I suspect a similar process is underway with the CC and 10 years hence very few people will regard it as a comparable success. Which, if correct, is a great pity.

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Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "In your mind maybe, not in anyone else's.'"

if you read the thread you will find you are wrong

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Quote: Clearwing "I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. I suspect a similar process is underway with the CC and 10 years hence very few people will regard it as a comparable success. Which, if correct, is a great pity.'"


The challenge cup is still massive but only when you get to the semi-final really.

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Quote: sgtwilko "in no shape or form is winning a challenge cup a comfort if you lose the gf. '"


Lets hope the Leeds players are of the same low opinion of the Challenge Cup on Saturday. icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: Mother Feka "No doubt if Leeds win on Saturday the Challenge Cup will suddenly become amazingly important to them
30,000 down to Wembely if they get there as well icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Odemwingie "30,000 down to Wembely if they get there as well

29,999

Its Live on BBC so Damo won't be going. icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: Clearwing "I seem to recall similar arguments when the GF was introduced, where people maintained that winning the league was the greater achievement. That argument has gradually disappeared as almost everyone now acknowledges that the GF is the greater prize. '"


But "greater achievement" and "greater prize" aren't the same thing.

IMO the league is the greater [iachievement[/i, as it rewards performances over 27 games, not just a few. Deciding which is the greater [iprize[/i is partly media-led and partly prize money related - both of which are largely influenced by SKY, who do a wonderful job in ignoring the CC competition.

(Incidentally, to pre-empt some criticism, I've always held that opinion, not just because we're currently league leaders!)

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Quote: Geoff "But "greater achievement" and "greater prize" aren't the same thing.

IMO the league is the greater [iachievement[/i, as it rewards performances over 27 games, not just a few. Deciding which is the greater [iprize[/i is partly media-led and partly prize money related - both of which are largely influenced by SKY, who do a wonderful job in ignoring the CC competition.

(Incidentally, to pre-empt some criticism, I've always held that opinion, not just because we're currently league leaders!)'"



The greatest achievement surely has to be the hub cap, but is the least recognised - financially and status wise. (i.e. The best team over the course of the season) as opposed to two seperate competions (CC - 5 games to win), (GF 3-4 games to win).

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