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Quote: jjb10 "Graham off the bench, the guy should start @8, where he has started all year and Eastmond and Roby with Westwood, that is a really light weight bench. We should of started this campaign with our strongest team let them gel and go forward.'"


Especially looking at a potential pack of

8.Ferriol
9.Bentley
10.Elima
11.Philippe Baile
12.Gossard
13.Moly

14.Casty
15.Fakir
16.Touxagas

With the final spot going to another big prop from the French League?

Could have been so much better too if Guisset didn't retire and Mounis, McGuire and Rinaldi were all available.

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Quote: gpartin "Dave O? never heard of him. You said Westwood deserved a place fir starters.'"


Who else would you have that's available? Westwood may have a few flaws in his game but he has represented well for England when he has played and is a workhorse that's needed, just like Locky is for Wigan. I'd much rather have Westwood in over Wilkin, wouldn't you?

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Gone off Tony Smith now then?'"


After the World Cup farce last year, good club level coach but taken GB further back than BN, we were in our best position in a long time when Waite left, since then we have done nothing but go backwards, the Wales game was a new low for me as an England fan, I expect the France game will be not much better but in the eyes of some im sure a victory will do.

Either way i will not be watching.

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Quote: jonh "After the World Cup farce last year, good club level coach but taken GB further back than BN, we were in our best position in a long time when Waite left, since then we have done nothing but go backwards, the Wales game was a new low for me as an England fan, I expect the France game will be not much better but in the eyes of some im sure a victory will do.'"


I expect a victory V France and then 2 lessons in RL from the Aussies and Kiwis.

I agree, David Waite was a very underated coach.

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Quote: thepriestman85 "Wigan should recall Sam imo. Treat Smiths time as England manager with the contempt it deserves.

If i was MM or IL i wouldn't want my best young talent in years being round such a farce of a coach or squad.

The facts are there for everyone to see

SamHarris at Stand off over an Leon Pryce anyone?



It's an absolute joke'"


But Nobles been proven right with that one. Pryce is not a stand off as has been proved over the last few years.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I expect a victory V France and then 2 lessons in RL from the Aussies and Kiwis.

I agree, David Waite was a very underated coach.'"


I've tried saying the same on the Wire board, how predictable that they don't see it.

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Quote: Mini Rogue "Who else would you have that's available? Westwood may have a few flaws in his game but he has represented well for England when he has played and is a workhorse that's needed, just like Locky is for Wigan. I'd much rather have Westwood in over Wilkin, wouldn't you?'"


Oh yes and:

"Noble has given plenty of youth enough chances in his time at Wigan"

Peacock second row with Ellis, Burgess bench Sinfield Loose? Carvell Graham Morley props, or even Shirley bench... not bad forwards to be fair.

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What a joke Tony Smith is simply pathetic Sam's form is twice as good as Mylers.

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Quote: gpartin "Oh yes and

which youngsters has Noble not given a chance at Wigan then clever clogs that deserve a chance that you have seen?

I can tell you the ones he has given a chance:

Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, Paul Prescott, McIlorum, Shaun Ainscough, Lee Mossop, O'Carroll and Chris Tuson.

That's 8 off the top of my head in the time he was here, what more did you want him to do with them?

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Just so we know were not bias here's what the rest of SL are saying



However they dont seem the most knowlegable on there....check this post out.... WTF

Quote: tigertot "The ginger Briscoe twin at FB is weak, his brother on the wing is a surprise, I would have gone with Neil Fox of HKR. Smith of Leeds Carnegie is maybe the best of a bad bunch (I would have preferred Leon Price). Maguire picks himself, Miller at SH is in as part of the deal that took him to Wire, Tom Kings from the squad but I would have put Burrows with his HB partner. Forwards almost pick themselves.'"


Leeds






HKR

Even the normally blinkered wigan hating Dire!!!! icon_eek.gif

More proof smith has lost the plot......As unpatriotic as it sounds id be half happy if we got tonked and lost all three leading to this idiot getting the boot.....If theres not a conflict of interest with his wire job then there never is!! Dont know why he doesnt just go the whole hog and stick Bridge Centre and Richie Mathers FB.....In all seriousness if this clown remains in charge of England I could see Mathers in a England Squad yet!!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "But Nobles been proven right with that one. Pryce is not a stand off as has been proved over the last few years.'"


Pryce when he first moved to Saints formed a very strong HB combo with Long! We would have stood more chance With either Pryce or even McGuire than Harris! Noble ruined a very, very good GB team there IMO it was certainly the strongest we've had in a good long while

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Instead Leeds Rhinos stand off Danny McGuire and Wolves signing Richie Myler reprise the half-back pairing that worked so well in England’s 66-12 victory over France in Paris last June.

“I know if we opted for Sam Tomkins in that position he’d do a good job but we believe the combination of Richie Myler and Danny McGuire is right for this match,” said Wolves chief Smith.

“It’s an exciting squad and a squad we think can do the job for us on Friday night.

“There is some terrific talent in there, a few new faces and some old heads. I’m really pleased by the squad we’ve selected.”

Smith said he was sure Tom Briscoe would build on his strong performance against Wales and voiced his confidence in Kyle Eastmond, who is one of three St Helens players on a strong interchange bench.

“Kyle is comfortable in a lot of positions and he’ll bring versatility from the bench. If we get injuries or somebody is not at their best we know we can introduce Kyle,” said Smith.

“He’s very good at running with the ball and taking the opposition on. I’m looking forward to seeing him in his first game.”

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... land_team/


So all in all TS picks Myler because he played well last time out vs France.
T Briscoe is rewarded with a place for his performance against Wales.
??? What more could Sam have done in his performance not to be rewarded????

The man is an idiot...
Instead Leeds Rhinos stand off Danny McGuire and Wolves signing Richie Myler reprise the half-back pairing that worked so well in England’s 66-12 victory over France in Paris last June.

“I know if we opted for Sam Tomkins in that position he’d do a good job but we believe the combination of Richie Myler and Danny McGuire is right for this match,” said Wolves chief Smith.

“It’s an exciting squad and a squad we think can do the job for us on Friday night.

“There is some terrific talent in there, a few new faces and some old heads. I’m really pleased by the squad we’ve selected.”

Smith said he was sure Tom Briscoe would build on his strong performance against Wales and voiced his confidence in Kyle Eastmond, who is one of three St Helens players on a strong interchange bench.

“Kyle is comfortable in a lot of positions and he’ll bring versatility from the bench. If we get injuries or somebody is not at their best we know we can introduce Kyle,” said Smith.

“He’s very good at running with the ball and taking the opposition on. I’m looking forward to seeing him in his first game.”

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... land_team/


So all in all TS picks Myler because he played well last time out vs France.
T Briscoe is rewarded with a place for his performance against Wales.
??? What more could Sam have done in his performance not to be rewarded????

The man is an idiot...


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Quote: Mini Rogue "which youngsters has Noble not given a chance at Wigan then clever clogs that deserve a chance that you have seen?

I can tell you the ones he has given a chance

clever clogs? !

Nobby was dead keen to get all of the above involved wasn't he? injuries / drug bans played no part in it whatsoever. I was embarrassed early in the season when we had no british backs but if thats what floats your boat we'll replace Sam with another aussie. Dave is spot on.

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ps Chris Tuson... clutching at straws methinks.

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Quote: gpartin "clever clogs? great dude!

Nobby was dead keen to get all of the above involved wasn't he? injuries / drug bans played no part in it whatsoever. I was embarrassed early in the season when we had no british backs but if thats what floats your boat we'll replace Sam with another aussie. Dave is spot on.'"


Which other clubs have promoted so many in the last few years?

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