win a few games noble is best thing since butter pies

lose a few and the true wiganer comes out

stop moaning and stick with what you have.....

Have healthy, reasoned debate, and a true prat comes out.

And look who it is ... again.

How's that £60 million + debt coming along?

I'd concentrate on the issues at your own club.

When are you being relocated to another town where you will get Premier League attendances?

You can see the FA's reaction when it happens - "thank fook for that!"

No it did not. Once Mo, Jack Robinson, Tom Rathbone and Jack Hilton assumed control with Mo as Chairman success was rapid and consistent.

Prior to that momentous event before those four assumed control the club was run by a large committee and it was the one huge step that those four took which placed Mo at the helm. That wasn't a small step but a huge one and once taken success came very quickly.



There are absolutely no parallels in the way Mo chose who coached Wigan or who got signed and what has happened with Noble and the squad.



Mo and the other three members of the gang of four staged their board room coup in 1982. Wigan won its first trophy in 12 years one year later in 1983, the John Player Trophy. In 1984 the club got to Wembley and got beaten by Widnes but returned in 1985 to win it in the epic game v Hull.

We won the championship in 1986 that is four years after Mo assumed the reigns not eight and the world club challenge the next year.

So once in control of the club it took him one year to win a trophy, three years to win the CC not six and four years not eight to win the league.

The way he dealt with coaching appointments from 1982 onwards is well known with few coaches lasting any great length of time (not all sacked for those who assume they were) until Monie arrived.

Your take on the clubs history is wildly inaccurate.

Dave

We signed two players and Rads came out of retirement (for free). We also didn't smash the salary cap. We only paid out up to the the salary cap.

To do that some players wages were deferred, which is a practice allowed in the NRL and it was only the RFL's reaction to the outcry from Cas and others that assumed we had spent more than the cap that got the RFL to decide it wasn't in the spirit of the cap IMO.

It was basically the same team plus two signings and Rads with his dodgy legs not a massive overhaul of the squad.

Dave

2 pivotal members of the squad were added, best kicker in the leage and the best prop in the world at the time.

We did smash the cap as we had players come in that we couldnt afford.

We off loaded players and deferred wages to other players that year. And we did not smash the cap at all we payed to the maximum with renegotiated wages. The RFL fined us and deducted us points because the said it was not in the spirit of the cap which was the biggest load of rubbish to come from the RFL for years. Others that year broke the cap by small amounts and got away with it.

The only thing we did wrong that year, IMO, was take too much of a gamble. Mo perhaps should have realised that the small-minded barstewards at the RFL would have come after us, especially when it had ensured our survival.

But 'breaking the spirit of the cap' - when payments made overseas, images rights, etc, wasn't!!! - absolutely farcical.