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The BNP winning a seat isnt a worry, them now being in the mainstream will expose them for what they are and they will hopefully collaspe under this scrunity/exposure.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: AJ "The BNP winning a seat isnt a worry, them now being in the mainstream will expose them for what they are and they will hopefully collaspe under this scrunity/exposure.'"


I would like to think that you are right. However looking at the "calibre" of their voters on the telly I feel that things will get worse in the short term.

Education of the working classes is the only way to ensure we rid this country of fascists

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I respect the fact that people have the right not to vote but it nevertheless staggers me that so few people actually do. When you consider how many people willingly pick up the phone every Saturday night and vote for stuff like Strictly Come Dancing, Big Brother and The X Factor, I can't believe that such a small proportion of those exercise their right to vote for people who will actually can and will make a difference to their lives.

I can't remember any occasion since I turned 18 where I've not voted; especially since moving to Wigan, where every vote counts for my particular party of choice. Just voting at all has only been a privilege we women have enjoyed for the last century or so, and throughout history people have given their lives to enable me to do so. The least I can do is return my ballot paper.

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



They all **** us over anyway thats why i dont vote

All they care about is £££££

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Quote: king warrior "They all **** us over anyway thats why i dont vote

All they care about is £££££'"

What's your alternative then? Either we exercise our votes and elect a governing body (whether by voting for candidates whose policies/personalities we can associate with or by standing ourselves if we can't find one that suits us) or we don't have a vote at all and end up like North Korea or something.

By not voting, all you've done is remain non-commital to your 'they all **** us over anyway' standpoint by not electing an alternative. You have essentially just allowed it to happen/allowed whoever it is to 'get away' with it.

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Quote: Vicki_w "What's your alternative then? Either we exercise our votes and elect a governing body (whether by voting for candidates whose policies/personalities we can associate with or by standing ourselves if we can't find one that suits us) or we don't have a vote at all and end up like North Korea or something.

By not voting, all you've done is remain non-commital to your 'they all **** us over anyway' standpoint by not electing an alternative. You have essentially just allowed it to happen/allowed whoever it is to 'get away' with it.'"


i dont vote because i dont think whatever party is elected anything would change

we'd still get taxed to death

petrol would still be sky high as would all other things cigs,beer etc

it would be a case of same s**t different guy

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: Kench Lucas "i dont vote because i dont think whatever party is elected anything would change

we'd still get taxed to death

petrol would still be sky high as would all other things cigs,beer etc

it would be a case of same s**t different guy'"
This 100%

All everyone who votes is choosing what toff screws us over

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But you can't really complain about stuff if you don't get off your ass and do something about it - if you feel strongly about high taxes or whatever, then vote for someone whose policy is different to encourage a positive change. For the EU elections last week there was enough choice on the ballot paper to keep everyone happy, from the far right to the far left and plenty in between. And if you don't like any of them, stand yourself.

I think the 'they're all the same' argument is pretty naive and ill-informed - if I'm not happy with the person I voted for last time, I vote for someone different next time to get them out of office, as is the general idea. If nobody voted, nothing would ever change (or even stand a chance of doing so).

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Changing the subject slightly.

anyone noticed how much Cricket gets covered on SKy sports news?. every single boring incident gets covered in great detail all bleeding day long. does my heed in

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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg



Quote: Vicki_w "But you can't really complain about stuff if you don't get off your ass and do something about it - if you feel strongly about high taxes or whatever, then vote for someone whose policy is different to encourage a positive change. For the EU elections last week there was enough choice on the ballot paper to keep everyone happy, from the far right to the far left and plenty in between. And if you don't like any of them, stand yourself.

I think the 'they're all the same' argument is pretty naive and ill-informed - if I'm not happy with the person I voted for last time, I vote for someone different next time to get them out of office, as is the general idea. If nobody voted, nothing would ever change (or even stand a chance of doing so).'"
Does it really anyway?

It's all the same people all the time cause the whole system is benter than a nine bob note i just leave them to it myself and i'm sure quite a few people do tbh

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Quote: nikos "Any ignorant fools on here voted BNP?

Cos its people like you that let Hitler steal power in Germany'"



It's a sad reflection of politics in this country that the BNP have received such a high number of votes, a lot of people have lost faith in Westminster. Whilst I will never vote for a bunch of pricks like the BNP, I can understand why people use it as a protest vote. It's about time the major political parties woke up and acted in the best interests of their electorate, that is a democracy.

I personally didn't vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour after recent events, but IMO there is no-one who could do a better job than them. Voting would be giving my approval to one of them and none of them are worth it. Very sad times icon_sad.gif

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[quote="king warrior":prbr924b]Adam Blair flew over yesterday and has been training the deal is going to be signed this week Got to say this is a top signing[/quote:prbr924b]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16493.jpg

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Quote: Orrell Lad "It's a sad reflection of politics in this country that the BNP have received such a high number of votes, a lot of people have lost faith in Westminster. Whilst I will never vote for a bunch of pricks like the BNP, I can understand why people use it as a protest vote. It's about time the major political parties woke up and acted in the best interests of their electorate, that is a democracy.

I personally didn't vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote for Labour after recent events, but IMO there is no-one who could do a better job than them. Voting would be giving my approval to one of them and none of them are worth it. Very sad times
But it's because of people like you, and me icon_surprised.gifops: , that the BNP have got in. It's not a mistake I'll be making again.

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Quote: Pemps "But it's because of people like you, and me
If most sensible people who perhaps didnt vote this time, use this as a lesson why they should, then it will not be a problem again.

FWIW, Vicki is pretty much right about the rest.

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Quote: AJ "If most sensible people who perhaps didnt vote this time, use this as a lesson why they should, then it will not be a problem again.

FWIW, Vicki is pretty much right about the rest.'"

My boss didn't vote and she was saying today how horrified she was that she'd contributed to the BNP success - she's another one who won't forget next time. It just goes to show what complacency can lead to.

Quote: AJ "i just leave them to it myself and i'm sure quite a few people do tbh'"

Yep, hence we now have two BNP MEPs.

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