He started playing pro quite late in his life (26ish I think) so he's not had the extra 6/7 years of punishment that a player usually gets.

OMG!! He's good in an average team... He'd be average in a top team...

He's had all them try assists, but if we were to watch repeats of them I wonder how many, involved Hock, busting three people outer the way, that passing to Carmont, then to the winger... I bet Hock earnt himm them assists!!

I'm a Wigan fan, but as much as I don't like to say it, no where near the class of a world class centre E.g. Gidley!

And I'd love to know how people have any idea of the wages of players.. Sworn not to say a word aren't they??

All I'm getting at is why keep any OLD players, the team is in a state of rebuild, yes you need some experienced players, Carmont not the most experienced as Pemps has stated...

Play Goulding, full season... Wigan lad, been at the club since he was 12 and a half, I know I was with him...

Gleeson is the best centre we have and I thought him, Hock and Ainsocugh, would be the new left wing?!?

because, in Carmonts case, hes a f*****g good player who should be kept as he isnt keeping anyone of similar/better ability out the team (i.e. Goulding)

Goulding isnt fit to lace Carmonts boots, harsh but fair, theyre absolutley miles apart. Age doesnt come in to this 1 ability does.

He's got one, possbly two seasons leave in him, before he starts doing a Senior, were hits and tackles start hurting, not healing from twists in the tackle the same and general fitness will go...

The one-two seasons, we'll still be re-building the team and I then when we decid to challenge for the title, he'll be to old and retire

Noble should play, controls the left wing -- Ainscough (Wing) Gleeson (Centre) Hock (2nd Row) and Tomkins around about on breaks
Least this woudn't be broke up for quite a while, if you get me!! There'll be no players, going and coming.

The right - Roberts (Wing) Carmont (Centre) O'Loughlin (2nd Row)

Far better then we have now, but Noble change things around that much!! I'd be

Without question imo.

They both bring trys and assists to the table and are solid enough in defence.

As an individual Gidley is in a different class but as a pair they're the best in the league.

We need to make sure we use them both as much as possible now.

Does anyone else have the feeling that if we got an experienced coach he'd kick fielden up the and we'd have a pretty good front row again?

any coach other than noble would drop fielden or get rid

But neither are really that viable are they. No-one is going to offer fielden enough money to tempt him away, and paying a reserve that much money is ridiculous. Do you not think he could be made good, or at least acceptable again?

Woah there fella you're making huge assumptions about Meli catching a ball