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| Quote: JLM23 "Andy your forgetting though, Murphy once played for Saints, so in Mr Kenny's eyes nothing good can be said about him. I blame the salary cap if im honest, It's the only reason we are where we are now apparently. 
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| Quote: JLM23 "Ahh so it's changed from the only reason the other day, to the primary reason now? Oh and to answer your question no I don't agree with you. Please explain as to why you believe this?'"
Has it?
Provide a link or .............well "go away". |
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "When you say "World cup player" don't forget TL played 9.
Now re-read your post.'"
Ok then Gregory against "ANY OTHER SCRUM HALF IN SL" if you want to be so Pedantic!
Point is you made an idiotic statement and can't bring yourself just once to admit you were wrong.
Not about who was the better player, but your reasoning behind it! |
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| Quote: JLM23 "Sorry mate! I just cant resist the classic argument of, you have an unfair advantage because you can only spend the same as everyone else. ![]()
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I'ts an obvious logic. However, for the umpteenth time..................
1. IF there was no CC, then small teams (such as Stains) would be unable to compete with larger teams such as Leeds or Wigan.
The "advantage" if you like, is that you are punching above your natural weight.
Now I have never called this an advantage. It's just an expression of fact. Scrap the CC and Stains would fall back into the middle of the pile.
That's why so many Stains fans are so supportive of the CC.
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| Quote: Jukesays "Unless you find a way round it! 
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "?
I'ts an obvious logic. However, for the umpteenth time..................
1. IF there was no CC, then small teams (such as Stains) would be unable to compete with larger teams such as Leeds or Wigan.
The "advantage" if you like, is that you are punching above your natural weight.
Now I have never called this an advantage. It's just an expression of fact. Scrap the CC and Stains would fall back into the middle of the pile.
That's why so many Stains fans are so supportive of the CC.'"
Ahhh yes that's why before a salary cap came in Leeds were so successful wasnt it?
I mean everybody knows Leeds 3 Championship's to our 7 before the start of Super league would suggest a major dominance wouldnt it? 
If as you say it is the Primary reason, what stops the other so called "smaller" clubs such as Huddersfield, Hull e.t.c From winning the Super League? |
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| Quote: Jukesays "Unless you find a way round it! ![]()
I have no idea mate, maybe you should ask the Warrington fans for some advice? 
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One thing you have to take into account when judging players from years ago and today is the ten metre rule. Of course there's different conditioning and all that but the skills are completely different. If the ten metre rule was abolished, todays halfbacks would get absolutely snotted and it would take years until we had players who were good enough to create a gap. Players from the past who possessed these skills would, with the right conditioning be amazing in Super League. And as for players being stronger and fitter today, obviously its a hypothetical argument but abolish substitutions and I know who my money would be on.
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| Quote: JLM23 "Ahhh yes that's why before a salary cap came in Leeds were so successful wasnt it?
I mean everybody knows Leeds 3 Championship's to our 7 before the start of Super league would suggest a major dominance wouldnt it? ![]()
Well let's replace Leeds with Wigan shall we?
So that's the end of that argument.
With regard to Huddersfield and Hull...........
Actually I would seperate the two.
Huddersfield are a small club and Hull are a medium/big club (bigger than Stains imo)
Right. The CC "as was" ensured that big clubs were "pegged back", whilst small clubs could not compete. The relative beneficiaries were medium clubs such as Stains. Call it the "Goldilocks zone". Bigger clubs couldn't "outspend" them, smaller clubs couldn't compete.
The CC was a rule made in heaven for Stains.
The bizzare new CC.............I am not sure.........................time will tell.
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Anyway, Adrian Lam. Cracking half back, very creative and always made you nervous when he had the ball. Jason Robinson was another, nobody could ever get hold of him. |
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Actually it's not that cut and dried though now is it?
He would get totally "owned" today.
Now a seperate argument is whether the "stars" of yesteryear could cope with the play today.
The reality is some would (e.g. Hanley) some would not (e.g. Gregory)
Frankly though. Johns at his best gives a FAR better display of RL than Murphy at his best.
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Johns played vs Athletes. Murphy played vs Fat Barstewards.'"
The single most stupid post i have ever read on here. Congratulations. |
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