| FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > List the excuses here.... |
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 11614 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
16831.gif
:16831.gif |
|
| Quote: jjb10 "Last year you where just lucky (and then finished 11th / below Rovers ouch!!!), this year you beat us we are shocking at the moment & YOU ARE POOR!!!!! & guest what you will finish behind Rovers again.'"
here you go, hope this cheers you up, perfect for your mood!  PMSL  |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1350 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2011 | Nov 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
34579_1267562925.jpg
Saints: 100% Bitter, 0% Class:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34579.jpg |
|
| Quote: DaveO "People are starting to judge him on far more than 15 games. They are starting to judge him on 2007, 2008 [iand [/ithe games we play this season. The fact we have played only two so far is not seen as relevant to the bigger picture of how the team plays under him which by and large is poorly.
Wakefield were short of a lot of first team regulars so I don't think is any excuse and part of the problem is how Noble is dealing with the half backs. It seem obvious to me now that it should be Smith at 7, Tomkins at 6 and TL as a 9.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but he would have far more support from the fans if he did that than picked the team as he has done so far. He is part of the problem.
Dave'"
Didn't Riddell play prop at Paramatta towards the end of last year because tbh I woudl have TL & McIllorum at 9, I wouldn't have Riddell anywhere near that poistion until he got proper fit. In fact I think aussie who only join the pre season training in Jan want a good flogging. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1350 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2011 | Nov 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
34579_1267562925.jpg
Saints: 100% Bitter, 0% Class:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34579.jpg |
|
| Quote: number 6 "here you go, hope this cheers you up, perfect for your mood! Cheers for that mate I think I need it!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 12903 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2021 | Aug 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
1530.gif
:1530.gif |
|
| Quote: DaveO "He is part of the problem.'"
I agree, but that is the key word "Part". If he doesn't change things around and get Prescott/Tomkins and such involved and show the bottle to bin Phelps/Coley etc then yes, questions re his future should be asked, but this season with this squad, requires more time imo. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1350 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2011 | Nov 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
34579_1267562925.jpg
Saints: 100% Bitter, 0% Class:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34579.jpg |
|
| Quote: AJ "I agree, but that is the key word "Part". If he doesn't change things around and get Prescott/Tomkins and such involved and show the bottle to bin Phelps/Coley etc then yes, questions re his future should be asked, but this season with this squad, requires more time imo.'"
I agree Noble is part of the problem, not THE problem, IL also has a lot to answer for, has he got the player Nobby wanted (i'm guessing no), are Phelps, Coley, Roberts, Riddell, & Mathers really the players to take us forward. Where is Pryce & why can't we keep hold of the ball!!! |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Moderator | 14395 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2024 | May 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
26.jpg
Last league derby at Central Park 5/9/1999: Wigan 28 St. Helens 20
Last league derby at Knowsley Road 2/4/2010: St. Helens 10 Wigan 18:26.jpg |
Moderator
|
| Quote: AJ "I agree, but that is the key word "Part". '"
I know, that's why I used the word. I knew it would not be lost on some!
Quote: AJ "If he doesn't change things around and get Prescott/Tomkins and such involved and show the bottle to bin Phelps/Coley etc then yes, questions re his future should be asked, but this season with this squad, requires more time imo.'"
It should not though certainly not 10 to 15 games. He doesn't seem to know his best team or how to use what he has got, which is not IMO a new problem with his coaching.
Dave |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 392 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2011 | Mar 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: jjb10 "Lets face it boys & girls, we might hear we were out enthused, we disrespected the game, we didn't complete our sets, they where up for it that little bit more, the season isn't won in feb. Blah, Blah, Blah. The fact is to lose to a poor Hull side and a shocking Wakey side, we are in the poop. Riddell (injury or not) is poop, Phelps has not kicked on at all, & would the real Tim Smith please stand up. We still don't have that plan B when our predictable plan A does wrong.
I don't know if we have the answers at this point in time, I am that depressed it is frightening. This poop needs sorting out & quick if we lose 2 cas next week we might be looking at a bad, bad season. We either get S. Tomkins in to see what he can do or we get someone else in because, we are not creating or finishing enough chances and why the fook can't we keep hold of the fooking ball, this is really poop, poop, poop, poop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
we completed most sets, we didnt loose that much ball, ok riddell hasnt kicked on yet hes in a new team different speeds, give the guy some time for god sake
As for tim smith i think you may have been watching a totally different game, the lad had a cracking game tonight some great attacking kicks ok one or two bad kicks but thats the way it goes, the reason we didnt win is because goulding didnt take his chances, the team played well dont think there was that much wrong, they got the luck of the bounce on a kick which lead to there try. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1350 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2011 | Nov 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
34579_1267562925.jpg
Saints: 100% Bitter, 0% Class:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34579.jpg |
|
| Quote: Legend That Sorts It "we completed most sets, we didnt loose that much ball, ok riddell hasnt kicked on yet hes in a new team different speeds, give the guy some time for god sake
As for tim smith i think you may have been watching a totally different game, the lad had a cracking game tonight some great attacking kicks ok one or two bad kicks but thats the way it goes, the reason we didnt win is because goulding didnt take his chances, the team played well dont think there was that much wrong, they got the luck of the bounce on a kick which lead to there try.'"
My comment on Smith relates to his Jaykell & Hide style. But IMO I would keep Smith in the Xiii but play him @ 7, TL @ 9, and get a new 6. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 12903 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2021 | Aug 2021 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
1530.gif
:1530.gif |
|
| Quote: DaveO " He doesn't seem to know his best team or how to use what he has got, which is not IMO a new problem with his coaching.'"
I think he knows what his best team SHOULD be, the problems seem to stem from his reluctance to break from that when as now, it doesnt seem to be/isn't working. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 3019 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2020 | Aug 2020 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
22059_1287313089.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_22059.gif |
|
| Quote: AJ "I think he knows what his best team SHOULD be, the problems seem to stem from his reluctance to break from that when as now, it doesnt seem to be/isn't working.'"
Hi, Mr Forshaw..  |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 12415 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
11987_1319451684.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11987.jpg |
|
| Quote: jjb10 "My comment on Smith relates to his Jaykell & Hide style. But IMO I would keep Smith in the Xiii but play him @ 7, TL @ 9, and get a new 6.'"
Who would you bring in at 6 ? Not to many classy players about but Smith Played well tonight for you guys , TL has done a decent job at 9 before. Riddell should be nowhere near a wigan team or in SL. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1350 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jul 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2011 | Nov 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
34579_1267562925.jpg
Saints: 100% Bitter, 0% Class:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34579.jpg |
|
| Quote: B0NES "Who would you bring in at 6 ? Not to many classy players about but Smith Played well tonight for you guys , TL has done a decent job at 9 before. Riddell should be nowhere near a wigan team or in SL.'"
I hear that Dennis Moran is a good player!!!
I don't know some one to complement Smith, not sure who though that is Noble & IL job. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 12260 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2023 | Jul 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
33934.gif
BLACK AND WHITES
East is East,West is West,
and never the twain shall meet.
--------------------------------
"I" said the sparrow "With my bow and arrow.":33934.gif |
|
| Quote: WigansForeignLegion "Jesting apart, Humberside coverage was as biased as GMR! Bet Dearden was having a fit, dire were just that 2nd half.
Excuse - We played last Sunday, haven't had enough time to recover and the wall pushed Humpty Dumpty off.'"
How dare you sir!..Humberside is renowned for its class act.
All this giving Wigan grief............couldn`t the fact that Hull played quite well have something to do with it?  |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1888 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
36121_1270460193.jpg
Conroy - Being a Latics fan i'm already immune to watching sh*te.
Sally Cinnamon - Treat the Saints forum as you would if you met a girl from St Helens. Best policy would be to avoid altogether but if you absolutely can't resist temptation then take every possible precaution.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_36121.jpg |
|
| Quote: barton baird "How dare you sir!..Humberside is renowned for its class act. ![]()
Ah but you'd have to listen to GMR to know what I mean about them! Did sound like Hull played well, they had a 2nd half gameplan and, especially, fitness.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
