Christ sometimes I wonder why you guys bother making the effort with 'fans' like truewiganer.

I think your doing a fantastic job and so do the majority of our fans, dont let idiots like 'truewiganer' get you down.

I don't think they even do that.

More has been done in twelve months 'unofficially' than the Riversiders have done in twelve years IMO.

what im saying is that having the ultras, its quite obvious that other teams are seeing it as a firm, and as a result making it an un-friendly atmosphere for other non ultras attendees.

More was done in the first month when we started last year more like!

So? Its quite clearly not a firm, come and meet the people who organise it.

i think the flags etc are great, i just think there are issues with the perception from other teams

Cut out the personal insults. mods

By other teams you mean Warrington? Does that not say more about them than the group of Wigan fans who've gone out of their way to raise money to buy flags and banners? A group of fans who get down to the ground on Friday morning to put up banners in their own time. A group of fans who get to away grounds well ahead of schedule to set up their display?

Ok people are seeing it as a firm and the cause of all wars ever fought I get it!!!

please grow up and re read what you were saying - I don't like getting personal but GEEES!!!!!

why am i a tool?
just cos im stating the perception from some fans and other teams.
explain why i am a tool?
i think its great u have resulted to name calling rather than having a discussion/debate

Cant say anything on here can we? What I said was the truth.

Thanks for the comments and constructive criticism. We’ve had similar messages from fans of other clubs up and down the leagues. Fair point about it looking official. That’s something that’s hard to get away from in modern stadia like the DW. The only place you can use tele poles are on the concourse in front of the stand. You need the clubs permission to even set foot on that concourse. You then have the Head Steward for the South Stand who is dead against this. Other difficulties in a ground like the DW is the problem of grouping likeminded fans together. It’s early days so you’ve still got people interested who are season ticket holders in other stands. Over time maybe this’ll change.

There is no way of getting away from the fact that you have to work with the club on some things like flags on top of the gantry and standing on the concourse in front of the stand. Impossible to do those things if you don’t work with them. Other things we haven’t asked permission for and have been rumbled.

Like I say, encouragement, support and constructive criticism received from Saints, Salford, Huddersfield, Halifax, Leyth fans etc as well as fans of football clubs. Only set of fans with an obsession with it are Wire fans and I wonder why that is? All boils down to jealousy and bitterness. If they were doing it I’d say good on em’. It looks good and that reflects better on the sport if it’s seen that its support base is vibrant.

We’ll keep plugging away at it anyway, start to build on the home made stuff and sort some displays out for this season. Displays without scratty ingerlund flags that Umbro give away free during a World Cup.

At which game did this 'unfriendly atmosphere' happen? I'm intrigued........

Show me where opposition fans have a perception that the ultras are a 'firm'

Show me an example of violence at games because of the ultras?

Explain the unfriendly atmosphere?

Your post make me believe that you are nothing more than a Warrington/Latics troll.

I think you should use the confetti at the Warrington game, just to p*ss off that head steward