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| Quote afootingmiracle21-12="afootingmiracle21-12"Since the removal of restrictions we've seen a Friday night gate of 5.5k vs Wakefield and 9.2k (with a sizeable contingent of lobbys) for a Sunday fixture with Leigh.
I could understand this when restrictions were still in place, but i expected crowds to return to usual pre-pandemic levels once lifted, perhaps even above these as I thought there would be a lot of clamor to get back to the rugby. What i didn't expect was that crowds would still be roughly half of what they would be for similar fixtures pre-pandemic levels.
The last two attendances have been the smallest for Wigan RL fixtures in 25+ years, and are probably below even usual latics levels (will be interesting to see how they compare in a few weeks).
But I suppose my big question is, is this because people are still nervous of covid so a lot aren't attending (if so, it seems to contradict what we are seeing day to day life, where most folk are carrying on like covid has disappeared
), or is it that 18 months away from the rugby has broken routines for many which are difficult to re-establish.
We can probably live with this short term if it is part of nervousness and crowds return proper next year, but if the latter we need to urgently look at how we can bring fans back as current levels are unlikely to be sustainable. At the moment we appear to have lost around 1/2 of our fans
Does anyone know what other SL teams have been pulling. Wire seemed emptier than usual last wednesday,but is everyone else significantly down like wigan are?'"
Yes, the club and the game of Rugby League should be worried when the Latics can draw in a crowd of 10,000 plus for their opening home game with no excuses being made by their supporters that the size of the crowd being affected by Covid19/Indian Variant which has been the case with some of our supporters about our attendances.
More to do with financial the state of the club and the level of the game in general.
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| Would we be the same as Latics if our club nearly went to the wall .We did when we thought we were going to be relegated .Football has a lot more publicity than RL its just come back off a European final with loads of hype.
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"Yes, the club and the game of Rugby League should be worried when the Latics can draw in a crowd of 10,000 plus for their opening home game with no excuses being made by their supporters that the size of the crowd being affected by Covid19/Indian Variant which has been the case with some of our supporters about our attendances.
More to do with financial the state of the club and the level of the game in general.'"
As a Latics fan myself I don’t think it was that great a crowd tbh. The clubs nearly gone to the wall and is being rebuilt and there’s an excitement from the fans to see what is pretty much a full new team. The first game back comes at a time where all restrictions on crowd sizes have been lifted, unlike the rugby where they couldn’t just make tickets a free for all to start with. In those circumstances I think 10,200 was solid but not much more. Let’s put it this way, had the rugby club faced the same set of circumstances, I think there would’ve been 15,000+ on.
Ultimately that crowd at Latics tells us nothing about our own attendances.
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| It's a general Rugby League thing though.
Saints v Cas 7,020, Saints v Catalan 7,758, Leeds v Cas was sub 9,000, Wire v Wigan was 8,014, HKR v Wigan 6,230
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"As a Latics fan myself I don’t think it was that great a crowd tbh. The clubs nearly gone to the wall and is being rebuilt and there’s an excitement from the fans to see what is pretty much a full new team. The first game back comes at a time where all restrictions on crowd sizes have been lifted, unlike the rugby where they couldn’t just make tickets a free for all to start with. In those circumstances I think 10,200 was solid but not much more. Let’s put it this way, had the rugby club faced the same set of circumstances, I think there would’ve been 15,000+ on.
Ultimately that crowd at Latics tells us nothing about our own attendances.'"
I’m a season ticket holder for both, significant every time I go to each game is the number of kids at Latics games which is phenomenal. 10,000 ish home support with a huge chunk under 16 in the third tier of English football is future-proofing the club (ownership permitting again obviously!). The general malaise in RL will stop a fair few from coming to games but I don’t see 15,000 home fans coming for a long time. Happy to be wrong though.
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| Quote DannyT="DannyT"I’m a season ticket holder for both, significant every time I go to each game is the number of kids at Latics games which is phenomenal. 10,000 ish home support with a huge chunk under 16 in the third tier of English football is future-proofing the club (ownership permitting again obviously!). The general malaise in RL will stop a fair few from coming to games but I don’t see 15,000 home fans coming for a long time. Happy to be wrong though.'"
Nor me but my 15,000 comment is based on us having the same circumstances as Latics. Hopefully we won’t but say we go in to administration, lose all our players, including our best kids, come within weeks of going to the wall, have no fans in the ground for 18 months at all, get bought out by new owners, buy a whole new team and have an opportunity in our first game back at home to sell as many tickets as we want and do I think we get 15,000+ on? Without any shadow of a doubt IMO.
I sit in the south stand for the rugby and the east stand for the football, so to me it feels like there are more kids at the rugby (certainly the last two games) but that’s because the South Stand us the family stand for the football and pretty much for the rugby. It was a fair crowd at Latics yesterday but not much more than that. I’d have hoped for 13-14,000 after the circumstances of the last 18 months.
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| The Oxford United fan was right but the arrogance of the high an mighty fans on here won't admit it
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| Quote The Whiffy Kipper="The Whiffy Kipper"The Oxford United fan was right but the arrogance of the high an mighty fans on here won't admit it'"
Ahh the mythical Oxford United fan
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"As a Latics fan myself I don’t think it was that great a crowd tbh. The clubs nearly gone to the wall and is being rebuilt and there’s an excitement from the fans to see what is pretty much a full new team. The first game back comes at a time where all restrictions on crowd sizes have been lifted, unlike the rugby where they couldn’t just make tickets a free for all to start with. In those circumstances I think 10,200 was solid but not much more. Let’s put it this way, had the rugby club faced the same set of circumstances, I think there would’ve been 15,000+ on.
Ultimately that crowd at Latics tells us nothing about our own attendances.'"
A 10,000 crowd for a Latics game is a good crowd judging by their attendances prior to the administration and the pandemic!
The days of being in the money mad world of the Premiership have gone for ever for many smaller clubs like the Latics and Bolton who after being in the Premiership then end up with financial problems as a result of not attracting the same level of support in the lower divisions.
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"A 10,000 crowd for a Latics game is a good crowd judging by their attendances prior to the administration and the pandemic!
The days of being in the money mad world of the Premiership have gone for ever for many smaller clubs like the Latics and Bolton who after being in the Premiership then end up with financial problems as a result of not attracting the same level of support in the lower divisions.'"
Quote Ruddy Duck="MattyB"So come on then.....what do you suggest? It's extremely easy to criticise and never offer solutions. I've listed above what I believe think needs to be done, you may have a different opinion on a solution. Or you may have none and just want to revel in how poor the game is now and we just all make as well pack up?
So I ask again... What is your resolve?'"
Seeing that you chose to ignore the invite I ask again, are you going to suggest a resolve for this poorly run club then or just constantly criticise it? If you do maybe we will agree with with some of your points.
Until then a number of posters on here will consider you a bit of a troll poster.
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| Quote Ruddy Duck="Ruddy Duck"A 10,000 crowd for a Latics game is a good crowd judging by their attendances prior to the administration and the pandemic!
The days of being in the money mad world of the Premiership have gone for ever for many smaller clubs like the Latics and Bolton who after being in the Premiership then end up with financial problems as a result of not attracting the same level of support in the lower divisions.'"
It is a good crowd no doubt about it ‘if’ we just say Latics got 7,000-8,000 before the pandemic and the same club gets 10,000 after crowds can come back but it was no normal set of circumstances on Saturday. It was a club that had been staring at the abyss, that had been ripped apart and had clubs with hundreds of millions of pounds coming in, picking over its bones (Leeds and Spurs). It is a club with a set of fans that is relieved, excited and in celebration mode of having a future now. It just wasn’t a normal set of circumstances and for that reason I’m not celebrating a good crowd (in normal circumstances) yet. In the Grand scheme of where Latics have been and where they are now it was solid.
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| What kind of crowd we expecting Friday ?
Saints and Wigan both losing last week would potential knock 1000 or so off the figure.
15,000+ ?
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