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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"If you are intelligent, you're doing a damn fine job in hiding it. If you are intelligent, then please say or do something intelligent to prove it. Thus far on this thread all you have done is back yourself into a corner and ontradict yourself, and ignore comments that prove you are wrong.'"
I don't need to justify or prove my intelligence to you. What I will say is that when someone has to stoop to the depths of petty insults and questioning intelligence levels, it would appear that they are in fact the ones that seem to be struggling. |
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| Player Coach | 2978 | Wigan Warriors |
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"Everyone is obviously a figure of speech referring to 99% of other clubs. And you question my intelligence....'"
No, everyone means everyone. If you meant the majority, say the majority. You said Wigan were the first professional club, you have since been proved wrong, and are trying to say you didn't. Have a day off sunshine. |
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"Come on mate that's a stupid comment, you're making yourself look silly. We are the most successful club of the modern era.'"
Modern era?
5 final losses in a row.
Not won anything in 6 years.
The last time you did win anything was the same year you broke the salary cap (Fair and even indeed...)
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Yes, it seems we are now getting somewhere with you as well.
Most clubs in the early 90's had a 'very' large amount of players that used RL as a living (£250-500 per week). Or did you think that players around the same like Phil Veivers, Alan Hunte, Tea Ropati, Paul Loughlin, Jonathan Griffiths, Paul Bishop, Bernard Dwyer, Kevin Ward, George Mann, Shane Cooper stood on the dole queue every Thursday collecting their giro.
I will say this again....Leeds RLFC went 100% full time professional just before Wigan RLFC did.'"
Wigan weren't full time pros as such in the early 90s and I guess neither were Leeds or Saints. What the Wigan club demanded was that they had first call on their services at all times, although in practice they probably wouldn't be at the club any more than a couple of hours a day. Hence you had the likes of Botica and Andy Platt helping out with friends' or relatives' businesses in their spare time. The difference was that the Wigan players were professional in their attitude, whereas the Saints players would hang around their town centre messing around and sadly some of their players didn't fulfill their potential. |
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I don't need to justify or prove my intelligence to you. What I will say is that when someone has to stoop to the depths of petty insults and questioning intelligence levels, it would appear that they are in fact the ones that seem to be struggling.'"
You brought the level of intelligence into this debate, not me. |
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"No, everyone means everyone. If you meant the majority, say the majority. You said Wigan were the first professional club, you have since been proved wrong, and are trying to say you didn't. Have a day off sunshine.'"
I have never said Wigan were the first professional club. This is getting tedious. |
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| Quote Bluenosewarrior="Bluenosewarrior"Modern era?
5 final losses in a row.
Not won anything in 6 years.
The last time you did win anything was the same year you broke the salary cap (Fair and even indeed...)
But, as we've already discovered, facts are not your best friends.'"
It is 5 years since we won something. What was that about facts?  |
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"You brought the level of intelligence into this debate, not me.'"
Really? I suggest you go back and read the thread, paying particular attention to your comment with regards to the size of my brain. |
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"It is 5 years since we won something. What was that about facts?
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| Quote Bluenosewarrior="Bluenosewarrior"Typo
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Haha. I have to get the counter-punches in when I can. |
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I have never said Wigan were the first professional club. This is getting tedious.'"
Don't make me have to quote you again. It is getting tedious, but the fact is, I only have to put up with you until I get bored with this and move on, you have to live with being you for the rest of your life, scary thought.
And yes I brought the size of your brain into the debate, the size of ones brain does not constitute the size of ones intelligent. For example, a Chimp is far more intelligent than an Elephant, and has a significantly smaller brain. Do try and keep up. |
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| Quote Jeff the God of Biscuits="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Don't make me have to quote you again. It is getting tedious, but the fact is, I only have to put up with you until I get bored with this and move on, you have to live with being you for the rest of your life, scary thought.
And yes I brought the size of your brain into the debate, the size of ones brain does not constitute the size of ones intelligent. For example, a Chimp is far more intelligent than an Elephant, and has a significantly smaller brain. Do try and keep up.'"
Haha. That's actually a very good attempt at wriggling out of the fact that you, albeit indirectly, brought intelligence into it. Great effort. |
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