At the end of the day this isn't a thread to hurl abuse at the group.

The Brigantes were not formed for vandalism and anyone who says different is wrong. The group was created to improve the atmosphere at home and away with songs and displays.

Anyone who did ANYTHING wrong last night will be severely dealt with both by the club and the group.

Mods, can we get this closed now?

I wasn't talking about the Brigantes in my last post but about rugby league in general. Sometimes any trouble people see at games is dismissed as being by people who aren't RL fans when they probably are.

I think the Brigantes are great with what they do, but they could perhaps do with some better PR.

Cripes!!!! Take a chill pill.... Its a forum, people can express their views...

Yes people can express their views but considering barley anyone on this board knows what's happened there is no point.

The culprits will be dealt with and we don't need this thread for that.

The thread is giving the group a bad name when only the idiots who were involved deserve that name

i don't agree, many of the views here have been infavour of the group... perhaps you should read it....

The group was created to improve the atmosphere at Wigan games. That is as far as it goes. We have been able to do that, the results are there for all to see. Anyone saying otherwise is just looking for an argument. We are not violent, we are not special. Weare merely Wigan fans trying to show colour and make some noise. If it does attract idiots then I hope we can police them and make them see there is other ways to have a good time. I would say there has been less idiot related issues since the Brigantes formed.

They guy who did the spraypaint is a LATICS fans, he is not even a Rugby fan. I can give you his facebook name if you like and you can go and have a look at the idiot for yourself.

Everyone was full of praise for us at the Saints away play-off, the atmosphere was terrific. Nothing has changed appart from an outsider trying to screw us over.

Hang on - I'm not sure people are against that "The Brigantes" want to achieve. As I said earlier, the flags and atmosphere created has been great, certainly better than it has been in recent years. I applaud what they have done. Wigan RL is the world's premier RL club, and as such, needs a great set of supporters.

I hope that clears that up.

However, I think some people, myself included, aren't comfortable with this creation of a "label" to distinguish a bunch of people who appear (to some of us anyway) to want to be the 'elite' clique of supporters. To me it seems a bit childish in an "I'm more committed than you - look I'm a Brigante!" type of way.

I appreciate, however, that this may not have been the intention. But that's certainly the perception.

Well you are not speaking for me....

i suggest you read the entire thread. it has gone from talking about 1 incident to this whole brigantes rubbish which is very relevant to ALL wigan fans

Nope. It's a forum and it's a discussion. Sometimes it's good to get things like this out in the open and everyone can learn something from other peoples opinions.

When did I say I was? I said "some people, myself included" not "everyone including Wigan Peer."

But his opinion is surely worth just as much. Hypothetically, if they could get thousands of fans involved by ditching the use of the word ultras or changing some of the logos I'm pretty sure they'd do it.
I'm guessing the 'brand' isn't bigger or more important than what their aim is.

I think that sometimes when someone aims criticism that way then the response, while perhaps understandable given that they don't wish to be associated with something that they weren't involved with, can sometimes be antagonistic, which isn't helping their cause.