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Quote: twosevenzero "Having met Ben Cross today, he also is one big unit !!!!'"


Why did you meet him?

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He will ad some weight and aggression up front, which i think were in desperate need of. Look at the way Leeds rolled up against us and Catalan and Warrington bossing game up the middle.

Wise move by McGuire and Lenagan if you ask me.

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i would take madge's judgement of a player any day

give the guy a chance ffs

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Quote: truewiganer "i hope he does prove me wrong, i just cant understand y we going for effectivly a cast off,'"


Do you live your life by sound-bites?

To complain that we've "signed a cast-off" is to ignore all sorts of other pertinent factors, not least the way he was treated at Leeds, which is basically a sinking ship, and the current state of our own forwards' fitness.

We need extra fire-power in the front row. This guy has a great pedigree, which his short-term problems at Leeds have no actual bearing on. If you consider those simple facts, you will understand.

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yet again, this thread as decended into name calling,
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Quote: truewiganer "yet again, this thread as decended into name calling,
thanks'"


Where's the name calling?
You stated that you couldn't understand the reason for signing Cross. A few posters have given their views on why he was signed.

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It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds.

Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy.

Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon.
Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge.
Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over?

Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL.

When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild.

Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all?

Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression.

For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?

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Not overjoyed. Lets see what he can do though

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Quote: Odemwingie "It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds.

Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy.

Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon.
Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge.
Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over?

Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL.

When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild.

Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all?

Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression.

For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?'"


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Quote: Mr.No.It.All "Not overjoyed. Lets see what he can do though'"


I reckon you'd be even less overjoyed if we didn't sign anyone and then found ourselves with only two fit props as the business end approaches.

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Quote: Odemwingie "It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds.

Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy.

Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon.
Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge.
Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over?

Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL.

When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild.

Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all?

Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression.

For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?'"


Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011We just don't need him. If they get injured we have Hock and O'Carroll to fill in.'"


viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006

Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.
Quote: Odemwingie "It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds.

Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy.

Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon.
Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge.
Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over?

Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL.

When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild.

Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all?

Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression.

For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?'"


Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011We just don't need him. If they get injured we have Hock and O'Carroll to fill in.'"


viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006

Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.


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ATEOTD - Nothing ventured nothing gained, he's only here for 3 months.
Could turn out to be a shrewd short term signing.

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Quote: Ian 77 Redux "Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:-



Cant people change their opinions ?

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Quote: MattyB "ATEOTD - Nothing ventured nothing gained, he's only here for 3 months.
Could turn out to be a shrewd short term signing.'"


Exactly. I can't see how there can possibly be any down side to signing an extra (State of Origin experienced) body for the squad, especially at prop.

Shrewd work from Wigan I reckon.

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