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Kieron Cunningham received no ban whatsoever when he forearmed a player in the face whilst on the floor, and fractured said player's eye-socket (Stosic of Wakefield). No ban, no threat of police, for what was a far worse incident. It is just a shame that Flower didn't keep his composure, because he's NOT a dirty player, far from it; but had he done so it should have been St Helens down to 12 men for the match, and I suspect they would have lost by more than 40 points.

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YOU LOST FLOWER WAS A DISGRACE GET OVER IT

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Quote: ploinerrhino "YOU LOST FLOWER WAS A DISGRACE GET OVER IT'"


Do you mean like you clearly have? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: ploinerrhino "YOU LOST FLOWER WAS A DISGRACE GET OVER IT'"


I'm making this 'Post of the week' - congratulations!


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I'm not a fan of this from McManus:

"Whilst serving his ban it is critical that Ben is now provided all due personal and professional support. His rehabilitation is now paramount. During the period of his ban he will be no more than a 25-year-old boy who will be extremely vulnerable emotionally."

I don't see that there's any rehabilitation to be made, if anything there's the same burden on Saints to work with LH for his forarm. Nor is he a boy and while there will be some emotion I see that the main problems here are the result of the overblown way in which this has been treated.

In another game, I don't know, lets say GB v's Aus nothing would be said, it's not like Morley was lambasted this much for his high tackle and first tackle sending off.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "YOU LOST FLOWER WAS A DISGRACE GET OVER IT'"


This nearly cheered me up as much as the guy clapping his own post a few days back.

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Quote: JTB "I'm making this 'Post of the week' - congratulations!
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I'm liking this post of the week idea - we should continue with it throughout the close-season.

However, I'm outraged at the fact you're using fireworks already and it's still three weeks to bonfire night.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "YOU LOST FLOWER. WAS A DISGRACE. GET OVER IT.'"


So, if I add punctuation to your "remark", you DON'T think that Flower should have been sent off ???

Interesting view.

Not one shared in too many quarters.

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Making death threats to a person who knocked another person out with a one punch and a rugby person to boot, got to love the keyboard warriors, all those caught should have the book thrown at them.

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Quote: PopTart "It's ironic that your avatar is John Lennon when you say don't worry about it and ignore the threat.
Most people who post death threats on Twitter are indeed idiots just thinking they can wind someone up while remaining anonymous. BUT as John lennon proved, some are cranks that follow through.
They need to be found and dealt with.'"

How? Take their keyboards off them and no more CeeBeebies for a fortnight? The Internet age has inflated the number but has inherently rendered almost all threats meaningless. Just a few keyboard warriors indulging their fantasies. If you want to talk about ironic, how ironic is it that the people who have lost most, I.e. Wigan fans, almost certainly aren't issuing death threats? The fans of other clubs now throwing their weight about should be thanking Flower, not castigating him. He singlehandedly (word?) gave Saints the GF trophy!

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All those who are calling the outcome a bit of a limp dick response from RFL and wanting a much more aggressive stance, and a suitable stiffening of the rules, those same ones would be shouting “it’s a disgrace” from the roof tops if one of their own ever suffered from that very punishment, but then of course their player was, “hit from behind first” or, “he never did anything, it was that dirty Wigan thug” Saints is a nickname not a self-description.
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Quote: jinkin jimmy "How? Take their keyboards off them and no more CeeBeebies for a fortnight? The Internet age has inflated the number but has inherently rendered almost all threats meaningless. Just a few keyboard warriors indulging their fantasies. If you want to talk about ironic, how ironic is it that the people who have lost most, I.e. Wigan fans, almost certainly aren't issuing death threats? The fans of other clubs now throwing their weight about should be thanking Flower, not castigating him. He singlehandedly (word?) gave Saints the GF trophy!'"


Do you mean how do you find them or punish them?

The police have powers to track Twitter posts now so can identify them if they are commiting an offence, and threatening someone's life (and wife in this case) is a criminal offence.
Punishment can be a simple fine and indeed taking their online access away but most of all the punishment is outing them because as said above, usually it is some keyboard warrior who thinks they can be tough.

The problem is, it only takes one nutter, so it needs to be dealt with.
Adrian Morley's book tells of him being goaded in a pub and being caught out because he hit him. Cost him a lot in fines, even though the guy was looking for it. Flower will have to contend with every drunk nutter who thinks they are bullet proof a) because they are drunk and b) because Flower has a lot to lose if he defends himself.

I feel for the guy. I hope he comes back stronger. I never sawa him as a penalty machine before (though you guys will know better) so it's not like he needs to clean up his game. He just needs to concentrate on getting back to form afetr the layoff.
If he comes back and shows he is still a good prop, the publicity will actually do him good.

It's not like anyone is having a go at Graham now after last years biting incident. His reputation is actually enhanced because people notice him more.

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Quote: pies-r-us "All those who are calling the outcome a bit of a limp dick response from RFL and wanting a much more aggressive stance, and a suitable stiffening of the rules, those same ones would be shouting “it’s a disgrace” from the roof tops if one of their own ever suffered from that very punishment, but then of course their player was, “hit from behind first” or, “he never did anything, it was that dirty Wigan thug” Saints is a nickname not a self-description.

Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI
Quote: pies-r-us "All those who are calling the outcome a bit of a limp dick response from RFL and wanting a much more aggressive stance, and a suitable stiffening of the rules, those same ones would be shouting “it’s a disgrace” from the roof tops if one of their own ever suffered from that very punishment, but then of course their player was, “hit from behind first” or, “he never did anything, it was that dirty Wigan thug” Saints is a nickname not a self-description.

Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI


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everyone who has issued death threats against him should be allowed to go 1 on 1 with him and see how that goes....

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