Finals are slightly different as every ST holder is guaranteed a ticket. The problem can arise with low allocation tickets.

We've sold out twice now I believe of adult tickets and have had to ask for more. Add to that that people can buy them from St Helens, and there will be a ST holder/regular game attendee who doesn't get a ticket. and Yes it has happened before, why do you think I'm so for the idea.

And the same tickets that we have sold out of were on sale at St Helens to anyone who bothered to get them?

PLUS

Of course if 10,000 ST holders want a ticket for this game they're not going to get one, but that has applied to every fixture since time began.
Anyone who wanted one and was bothered about getting one up front got one, true or not?

EOTD there's a limit on how many tickets Wigan get through the club, tell me at what point does this "Loyalty" scheme mean that we get MORE Tickets? If it doesn't that means that the same amount of Wiganners will be there just potentially some slightly different ones! And the ones who don't get them this time will moan about not getting one and will want that system changed!

So why doesn't someone start a thread and ask those that haven't got tickets but want one why they didn't get one from Saints?
Make sure though you put a time limit on when they can complain about this because if they start moaning in the week leading up to the game it's completely irrelevant!

Seems like a hell of a lot of fuss for Nowt!

We bought the Loyal 18 membership as we live 100 miles from Wigan and due to work commitments cannot always attend every home game, so a season ticket is not practicable. With the half price magic weekend tickets it saves you the price of the Loyal 18 membership so it's a bit of a no-brainer in that respect. We sold the spare handbook and season review DVD on Ebay and with the £2 per ticket savings on match tickets we feel as if we have a good deal. The only problem with the system is that you have to ring the ticket office to take advantage of the saving - you can't buy tickets online and get the £2 discount. Oh, and we haven't received our actual membership cards yet and we were promised them before the first game of the season!

I haven't read anything past the post by 21-12 below this post.

But how is not fair? Rewarding the people who put the most money into the club (by buying a season ticket every year) should be rewarded the most IMO.

I don't think the amount of away games attended should even factor in.

The point that me and 21-12 are trying to make is that a fan who goes to every game (or the majority) should be able to get a ticket to a game like Saints or Wire before someone who picks and chooses their games. As a Latics fan for example, I didn't get a ticket to Stoke last season because they went to those with previous away games. Rightfully so. Why should I get to see the big game and say "I was there" when I haven't been bothered the rest of the time?

Yes, it very rarely matters as tickets usually are available to everyone who wants one, so there isn't a problem doing things the way me and 21-12 are suggesting either is there? All we are saying is that the full away end should be given to Wigan and then sold in stages. Season Ticket holders will still get the chance to go to the game.

Costs the club more money to organise/staff.
Will take longer to sell our allocation as it will have to be done in stages pushing people towards trying to get tickets from the away club (As alluded to by Matt and others)
This in turn may mean less allocation for future games (As again mentioned by Matt)
Possible problems as people may/will have to queue numerous times to get tickets due to people in same grooup/family/friends having different amounts of loyalty points.
People will still "Borrow" points from friends/family etc meaning people who are not even ST holders etc get to the games (Same problem as now).

Now ask yourself this, Name me 1 occasion when ST holders have not had the chance to buy a ticket to an away game?
I think the answer from Matt was "ZERO"?

If your agreeing that ST holders should get priority over non ST holders then as far as I can see bringing another level of Priority in will solve what?

So what's the problem?

I can name you 1 occasion, we have 3k allocation for saints, 10k season tickets. Il let you do the rest

Mute point.
It's Sunday morning. The day AFTER the ST section of the sales ended. We haven't sold out (as far as I am aware?). Not one season ticket holder has failed to obtain a ticket if they want one.

What's the problem?

no problem this time, as tickets were available online and by phone from day 1 of sale.......the problem is when they do what they did last year for challenge cup and sell to personal callers only on week days. Living 100 miles away and having a job meant i couldnt get a ticke in the lower tier and I hadnt missed 1 away game all season. That's the problem

There are still tickets available though! Every season ticket holder who has wanted a ticket has been able to get one. What's the point of doing an extended loyalty system when we are not selling out our allocation using the current system. If they'd flown out within 5 mins and there were thousands of people complaining they can't get one then I could understand. Other than potential cup semis and finals, this game and possibly Wire away are the only games where the demand for tickets could be higher than the allocation.

FWIW I'd love a complicated away game-based loyalty system to be required as it would mean we'd be selling out all our allocation each week. As it is though, it's not needed.

Classic example of why people that attend the most games should get first priority, more so for cup finals

auntie doris and uncle eddie, who hadnt been to an away game since last cup final at murrayfield or cardiff probably got my lower tier tickets.....lol

If there were phones and online sales for the Challenge Cup then they would still be queuing now, there simply aren't the resources to cope with it. And, again, there was ample opportunity to buy tickets through the RFL for non season ticket holders or people who were unable to get to the DW.

That fan may be more 'loyal' or just richer. If you're going to go down that route, it'd be far better to judge based on whose put the most money into the club - and that's the people who buy and ST every year.

(I don't btw, as I can't afford every game - so it's not as if I'm only saying it as suits my situation best)

You can name it, but you'd be wrong!

At what point have any of those 10k season ticket holders not had a chance to buy a ticket?????
At what point have any of those that didn't buy a ticket (Lets say the other 7k) plus any Non ST holder not had a chance to buy a ticket for the game?

I think the problem here is people focussing on the wrong issue which is the Away club maybe should not be selling to the general public an area of the ground that at a future point is going to have some kind of restricted sale on it until the "Away" club has had chance to sell that allocation.

i.e

Send Wigan there 3k or whatever it is and if they're on sale for 3/5 days or whatever then put the rest (To Home and away fans) on general sale after that.

Either way your "Statement" is wrong as any fan has had (And still has I believe) the chance to buy tickets from St Helens and/or Wigan still?
How would the Loyalty points help then?

Over to you, I'll let you try and come up with a valid reason coz as far as I can see your just peeing in the wind over an issue that isn't one.
"I'll let you do the rest" ? I know your prone to the odd exagaration to make a point but even for you that's a pretty poor effort!