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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "
When everyone is at the top of their game then Warrington have the best team in the league this year.'"
Really? You would have thought the league table would be the judge of that.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "3 in 4 years is a long way short of 8 in a row, but remember to put it in context, we have done it in an era of a strong Wigan team with Tomkins, Finch etc, which makes our achievement even more remarkable. I don't think the great Wigan team of the 1980s and 1990s had a rival as strong as that.'"
Remarkable my Jim Royle.
Competition was much stronger and deeper than now.
How's about
Leeds with Hanley Lowes and Schofield
Widnes with Davies Offiah Tamati and Sorenson
Wire with Drummond Woods Gregory and Boyd
Saints with Loughlin Ropati and Ward
Cas with Crooks Blackmore and Nikau
Throw in the second tier Halifax Oldham Fev etc much stronger than now.
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| Quote: Finfin "Remarkable my Jim Royle.
Competition was much stronger and deeper than now.
How's about
Leeds with Hanley Lowes and Schofield
Widnes with Davies Offiah Tamati and Sorenson
Wire with Drummond Woods Gregory and Boyd
Saints with Loughlin Ropati and Ward
Cas with Crooks Blackmore and Nikau
Throw in the second tier Halifax Oldham Fev etc much stronger than now.'"
Tbh the league's a lot more even now than it was back then the cap has ensured this and its now so no one team can have a starting 13 where every1 of them are world class and would walk onto any team.
iirc we were not that bad then for a semi pro team and for arguments sake had wigan not been in the league we would have won a few league's
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| Quote: goobervision "Really? You would have thought the league table would be the judge of that.'"
not really, they've beaten us twice and haven't looked troubled either time, battered Leeds and Saints recently too, they're peaking nicely at the right time, quite comfortably the best team in the league imo
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| Quote: Dezzie_D_Wireledgend "Tbh the league's a lot more even now than it was back then the cap has ensured this and its now so no one team can have a starting 13 where every1 of them are world class and would walk onto any team.
iirc we were not that bad then for a semi pro team and for arguments sake had wigan not been in the league we would have won a few league's'"
If its a lot more even as you say, how is that the league ends up pretty much the same each year, and, apparently, one team have won the cup for 3 out of 4 years!!!
Looks like the cap has really levelled thing up...
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "So if you're an eighteen year old Wire fan born in 1994, you have to eat humble pie in the presence of the main Pies because of stuff that happened either before you were born or when you were a kid? We acknowledge Wigan's history but too many Pies can't accept that Warrington themselves are now a very fine team and their fans are entitled to shout about it.'"
Feel free to shout about it, I would expect you too and you fully deserve to.
Just don't do it on the Wigan forum and make stupid comparisons without expecting to be quite rightly laughed at.
I have to laugh at the ''but Wigan were professional back then....'' comments. After browsing the teams from back then, there were more academy & Wigan born products in those Wigan sides than Wire fielded on Saturday and that was when there was only two subs.
Again, we wouldn't have to offload facts like the above if Wire fans wouldn't give it the big one trying to compare themselves to Wigan.
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| Quote: Deano G "icon_lol.gif
Wrong. The salary Cap is less than perfect, but it has led to more competition. It may well be that there are only three or four teams with realistic chances each year, but before the cap there was only one.
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| Quote: ABP' "Feel free to shout about it, I would expect you too and you fully deserve to.
Just don't do it on the Wigan forum and make stupid comparisons without expecting to be quite rightly laughed at.
I have to laugh at the ''but Wigan were professional back then....'' comments. After browsing the teams from back then, there were more academy & Wigan born products in those Wigan sides than Wire fielded on Saturday and that was when there was only two subs.
Again, we wouldn't have to offload facts like the above if Wire fans wouldn't give it the big one trying to compare themselves to Wigan.'"
I didn't make the comparisons but I don't think that it can be considered 'stupid' to compare a team that has won three out of four cup finals with one that won eight in a row. Sports fans/journalists are always doing this sort of thing, as in '[iAre you the next Daley Thompson[/i'? Lee Briers can hardly be criticised when a commentator asks him for a view. In golf people compare Graham McDowell to Tiger Woods and fans don't respond with 'don't be stupid' or 'come back when McDowell has won twelve majors'.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "I didn't make the comparisons but I don't think that it can be considered 'stupid' to compare a team that has won three out of four cup finals with one that won eight in a row. Sports fans/journalists are always doing this sort of thing, as in '[iAre you the next Daley Thompson[/i'? Lee Briers can hardly be criticised when a commentator asks him for a view. In golf people compare Graham McDowell to Tiger Woods and fans don't respond with 'don't be stupid' or 'come back when McDowell has won twelve majors'.'"
It is stupid as Wigan were also winning championships at the same time.
That's the last I'm saying. I can't even believe I got into the early stages of a debate....
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| Quote: ABP' "It is stupid as Wigan were also winning championships at the same time.
That's the last I'm saying. I can't even believe I got into the early stages of a debate....'"
This thread appears to be about the Challenge Cup.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "This thread appears to be about the Challenge Cup.'"
In the same way that it's not about Tiger Woods...?
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| They would have been better asking if we were comparable to the Saints team that won Challenge Cups in 2004, 2006, 2007 and 2008. If we win next year we will have 4 in 5 years and matched them. 8 in a row is 7 years off and some of our players will be in their 40s by then...
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "In the same way that it's not about Tiger Woods...?'"
Analogy is not comparison.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "They would have been better asking if we were comparable to the Saints team that won Challenge Cups in 2004, 2006, 2007 and 2008. If we win next year we will have 4 in 5 years and matched them. 8 in a row is 7 years off and [isome of our players will be in their 40s by then[/i...'"
Didn't stop Gus Risman.
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