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| Quote: warrior1872 "The same sam tomkins who was left on his backside by Zak,I'm of the opinion that no matter what he does people wont take to him,rather Zak than the ungrateful tomkins'"
Yes that one. Just because Zak ran round him on this occasion for the try doesn't make a difference.
Sam offers way more in attack and links into the line better.
But you're right, I don't like Zak and didnt want him at the club tom begin with.
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| Quote: JWarriors "Yes that one. Just because Zak ran round him on this occasion for the try doesn't make a difference.
Sam offers way more in attack and links into the line better.
But you're right, I don't like Zak and didnt want him at the club tom begin with.'"
Yet you probably didn't mind Hanley playing for despite a 2 year absence in his Bradford career due to him being in one of her majesties hotels
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| Quote: warrior1872 "Yet you probably didn't mind Hanley playing for despite a 2 year absence in his Bradford career due to him being in one of her majesties hotels'"
I'm a young one at only 27, never got the chance to see him play for us so don't really have an opinion on the matter.
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| Quote: JWarriors "I'm a young one at only 27, never got the chance to see him play for us so don't really have an opinion on the matter.'"
Shame mate, you missed arguably the greatest British player of all time.
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| I think he’s a superb player and we did right in standing by him. It does look like it will pay dividends for us.
Talk of England/GB is premature IMO as Ratchford would and should be first in line and rightly so at this given time (I didn’t consider Widdop as he’s long term injured), but there is plenty of time for Zak to stake his place in the GB squad.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "Shame mate, you missed arguably the greatest British player of all time.'"
Wigan had, what would now be marquee players, in Hanley, Offiah, Edwards, Gregory at the same time.
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Quote: JWarriors "Yes that one. Just because Zak ran round him on this occasion for the try doesn't make a difference.
Sam offers way more in attack and links into the line better.
But you're right, I don't like Zak and didnt want him at the club tom begin with.'" Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdkL8w_Qog
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Quote: JWarriors "Yes that one. Just because Zak ran round him on this occasion for the try doesn't make a difference.
Sam offers way more in attack and links into the line better.
But you're right, I don't like Zak and didnt want him at the club tom begin with.'" Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdkL8w_Qog
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| I don't personally have an issue with ZH or his past, I'm just not a massive fan of what I'd call a 'defensive' FB. For me I prefer my FB to be a little more slick with the hands and boot. ZH has a world-class running game and he's great defensively too, but he's not a 3rd pivot. Sam might not be as good defensively, but he was more than adequate and delivered championships in attack.
Also makes me laugh how bitter/fickle some of our fans are. Any player that dares to leave is lambasted and their past achievements are wiped from the history books. Look no further than Sam or Edwards (our most decorated ever player). It's a career and players/coaches have to make their money whilst they can. Neither of the two guys I've mentioned owe Wigan anything.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Wigan had, what would now be marquee players, in Hanley, Offiah, Edwards, Gregory at the same time.'" Hanley wasn't at Wigan when Offiah was
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "I don't personally have an issue with ZH or his past, I'm just not a massive fan of what I'd call a 'defensive' FB. For me I prefer my FB to be a little more slick with the hands and boot. ZH has a world-class running game and he's great defensively too, but he's not a 3rd pivot. Sam might not be as good defensively, but he was more than adequate and delivered championships in attack.
Also makes me laugh how bitter/fickle some of our fans are. Any player that dares to leave is lambasted and their past achievements are wiped from the history books. Look no further than Sam or Edwards (our most decorated ever player). It's a career and players/coaches have to make their money whilst they can. Neither of the two guys I've mentioned owe Wigan anything.'"
No third pivot, I guess you never watched him in a Cas shirt? He was under Powell.
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| Quote: JIMMY MAGNETS "Hanley wasn't at Wigan when Offiah was
Apologies, I was pretty aure he was.
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| Quote: MGarbutt1986 "Apologies, I was pretty aure he was.'" Apology accepted
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| Quote: snowie "Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation
IMO Hardaker has never been as good as Tomkins was from 2010-2013. Right now its pretty close between the two. Tomkins better going forwards. Hardaker better in defence.
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| Quote: JWarriors "IMO Hardaker has never been as good as Tomkins was from 2010-2013. Right now its pretty close between the two. Tomkins better going forwards. Hardaker better in defence.'"
I dont know how you come to that conclusion.
Hardaker in that era was a superb defender and taker of the high ball whilst Tomkins was less than reliable in defence and a liability under the high ball. Tomkins was lethal in attack and whilst Hardaker never had the attacking capability of Tomkins, he was still a huge threat. If you mean Hardaker has never been as good in attack as Tomkins was then id agree but Tomkins has never been as good in defence as Hardaker was and still is. Hardaker is now the better all round player and it will become apparent once he fully finds his feet in attack.
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| Sam is a better player. Zak is a better fullback.
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